T5 facelift due to debut in 10 Months

[gregozedobe]

Latest gossip from (possibly) a UK VW dealer (from the Brickyard forum) :

T5 full facelift later this year.

New common rail 4 cylinder engine range.

Production of the current model will stop in June this year with production of the newer version beginning in October.

DSG is supposed to be introduced as the auto option.

Pickup and Caravelle LWB also due to be launched this year.

[phaeton]

Latest gossip from (possibly) a UK VW dealer (from the Brickyard forum) :

Proves the Germans were right.

4cyl diesel is interesting
Does that mean 2.5 TDI will only remain in Crafter and be obsolete after current gen stops production?????

EDIT when they say Caravelle LWB they actually mean Multivan

[gregozedobe]

Does that mean 2.5 TDI will only remain in Crafter and be obsolete after current gen stops production?????

I had an idea the 2.5 TDI in the Crafter was based on the old one in the T4 ie not the same timing gear engine as in current T5s and Touaregs.

On the VWA website for Crafter it says "Cam belt change of up to a maximum of 200,000km or 48 months", which would indicate it is a different engine.

[Tornado T5]

I had an idea the 2.5 TDI in the Crafter was based on the old one in the T4 ie not the same timing gear engine as in current T5s and Touaregs.

On the VWA website for Crafter it says "Cam belt change of up to a maximum of 200,000km or 48 months", which would indicate it is a different engine.

I often wondered why the Crafter engine's 80kw, 100kW & 120kw 2.5L 5 cyls versions are all common rail tdi's. Interesting that the high output engine is down 8kw and 50Nm on the high end T5.

[phaeton]

Some snippets from T5 Board......

English and German

Hello,

from my "inside source" I heard the following:

Peak Diesel motorizing a 2.0 CR TDI 4-cylinder with 190 hp

First there is the combination of all-wheel and automatic (DSG)

The cockpit and the front will be redesigned, and the CAN-bus system is the current standard car market, including the option to touchscreen Navi (see golf VI)

Hallo,

aus meiner "Insider-Quelle" hörte ich Folgendes:

Spitzendieselmotorisierung wird ein 2.0 CR-TDI 4-Zylinder mit 190 PS

Erstmals gibt es die Kombination von Allrad und Automatik (DSG)

Das Cockpit und die Front werden neu gestaltet; das CAN-Bussystem wird auf den aktuellen PKW-Standard gebracht inkl. der Option zum Touchscreen-Navi (siehe Golf VI)

hehe curious as I have heard something similar getsren
- 3x diesel 100PS 140PS and 180PS
- + DSG all-wheel possible
- Car + Traposchiene seemed (visually) as the separation T4
- Front is the current face (ählich Schirosto) adapted
- Can new bus system

hehe kurioser weise habe ich getsren etwas ähnliches gehört
- 3x diesel 100PS 140PS und 180PS
- DSG + Allrad möglich
- schienen PKW + Traposchiene (optisch) trennung wie beim T4
- Front wird dem aktuellen Gesicht (ählich Schirosto) angepasst
- neues Can Bus system

mal schauen was wirklich rauskommt

look what's really rauskommt

Thus, => Product training VW (not special Nuzi) with a view to T5 Model Year 2010:
optical changes => no information
to motors => subject to change every 2.0 CR motors to 170 hp (probably in the top PS double charged areas, such as the TDI, but only conjecture ne)
for Electrical => will be completely taken over by the new Polo
Nights "official" training Nutzi Ascension, then more (hopefully)

Very good! Well, is probably correct, so there's probably so little info, because you have not even been finished. But after the plant closing will be converted, which is safe ....

So, => Produktschulung VW (nicht speziel Nuzi) mit Ausblick auf T5 Modeljahr 2010 :
zu optischen Änderungen => keine Auskunft
zu Motoren => unter Vorbehalt alles 2,0 CR Motoren bis 170 PS ( möglicherweise im oberen PS Breich doppelt aufgeladen, wie beim TDI, aber eben nur ne Mutmaßung)
zur Elektrik => wird komplett vom neuen Polo übernommen
nächtste "offizielle" Nutzi Schulung vor Himmelfahrt, dann mehr (hoffentlich)

Sehr gut!!! Tja, ist wohl richtig, deshalb gibt's wohl auch so wenig Infos, weil man noch gar nicht fertig ist. Aber nach den Werksferien wird umgestellt, das ist sicher ....

[Tornado T5]

An awd auto would be my dream come true.

[Transporter]

And hopefully it will be longitudinally mounted engine/trans like in Treg or Q5.

[Seano]

And hopefully it will be longitudinally mounted engine/trans like in Treg or Q5.

Not a chance. Whole front end would have to be re-done and that won't happen because a) this is just a refresh and b) a four cyl 2 litre engine already fits transversely in the existing bay.

Anyone else curious/mildly concerned about the continuing habit of moving to small capacity & relatively high revving diesel engines in a commercial vehicle as opposed to a larger and relatively lazier revving (and potentially longer lasting)unit?

[Transporter]

But it would be nice wouldn't it. Maybe in T6 than.
Yes, I agree with you I prefer my R5 diesel before anything 4 cylinder small capacity and with the timing belt.

[gregozedobe]

Anyone else curious/mildly concerned about the continuing habit of moving to small capacity & relatively high revving diesel engines in a commercial vehicle as opposed to a larger and relatively lazier revving (and potentially longer lasting)unit?

I don't think any manufacturer is much concerned these days whether their new engines last only 200,000km instead of the previous 300,000km +

As long as not too many go wrong during the warranty period (basic or extended) they won't worry, besides, they sell more parts if there are problems. They should do enough durability testing to be confident they (the manufacturer) won't have to pay out too much too often.

AFAIK the main push to smaller (but more highly tuned) engines is to reduce exhaust emissions and reduce fuel consumption.

Of course, I would prefer to see the VAG 3.0 V6 TDI available in Transporters , but I don't see it happening until (and unless) they move to different architecture or they adapt the engine for transverse mounting (as previously discussed in this thread).