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Thread: T5 alternator design=fail..

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    Thumbs down T5 alternator design=fail..

    Wow, just pulled my first T5 2.5tdi alternator off yesterday. What a dumb design, I am not sure what VW are thinking these days as the alternator, powersteering pump which also drives the A/C pump via a toothed joiner all run off the gearbox end of the motor using no belts off the crank, rather, must be some planetary gears in the end of the motor.
    It entailed removing the front of the vehicle, the inlet manifold and hoses ect. Major job, only to find that the toothed sprocket on the alternator must have some kind of harmonic balancer setup internally which had failed. Special tools are required to remove this thing and the part? $520 retail thanks very much!
    As much as I am over old aircoolers, VW make things so difficult these days...

    Beware T5 owners, this vehicle has covered 103000 kms.
    Andrew
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    Have you see the internal powersteering pumps which fail and pump power steer fluid into the motor and motor oil into the steering !
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    Havent seen that Loon, another modern design feature eh...
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    Yup, its good ay?

    Just changed our first Golf 5 DSG today as well!

    At 112,000ks.
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    Scary posts, guys.
    Knowing my luck, I should start saving.

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    the world of car design has change, service has nothing to do with it.its just how can it be assembled on the assemblyline...

    the joys of working within automotive....good job i work for Ford so i can mess up there designs lol
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    Can't be as bad as the 88' excel:



    The alternator bracket was integrated into the block, so you can imagine what will happen when you have to change that

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    AFAIK VW won't be putting the R5 (2.5 5 cyl TDI) engine into Transporters any more (starting from the FL due out soon). So goodbye to the gates couplings (toothed rubber drive for alternator and A/C). I have a feeling I might be selling mine just before the extended warranty runs out
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    Jeez,
    That's a worry, I have only just bought one!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtimk5 View Post
    Wow, just pulled my first T5 2.5tdi alternator off yesterday. What a dumb design, I am not sure what VW are thinking these days as the alternator, powersteering pump which also drives the A/C pump via a toothed joiner all run off the gearbox end of the motor using no belts off the crank, rather, must be some planetary gears in the end of the motor.
    It entailed removing the front of the vehicle, the inlet manifold and hoses ect. Major job, only to find that the toothed sprocket on the alternator must have some kind of harmonic balancer setup internally which had failed. Special tools are required to remove this thing and the part? $520 retail thanks very much!
    As much as I am over old aircoolers, VW make things so difficult these days...

    Beware T5 owners, this vehicle has covered 103000 kms.
    Andrew
    Mate, can you tell us please, if there were any additional driving lights fitted or second battery or two.
    These couplings should last 120,000km when they should be replaced. I'm just trying to figure out how it happened and what caused that. Could it be the extra load on the alternator?
    Last edited by Transporter; 06-11-2009 at 09:30 AM.

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