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    T4 TDI Woes

    Hi All,
    this is my first post and have to confess I have limited mechanical knowledge.

    I have owned my 2003 TDI LWB since new and have generally been very happy with it other than a problem with the torque converter on the auto transmission about 4 years ago.

    The van has been very reliable and is always loaded up with tools,has done 170,000kms and averages about 10litres per 100kms around town.

    I had the cam belt replaced by a reputable VW repairer in 09 in accordance with the service schedule.
    The other day it broke.

    I'm now up for a $6000+ repair.
    I haven't been given the final quote but will find out on Monday.They said it could be over 10K

    I don't really feel like spending this amount of money on a car thats nearly 10 years old.
    Need some advice .
    Should I just cut my losses and buy a S/H 2008 T5 or stick with my T4.
    Was told you can get recoed 2.5 litre motors from VW germany for $9000.00
    S/H T5 auto I've seen is $22,000 with 103km's

    Will I be better off in a T5 and if I do opt for a T5 should I go for a manual or are the autos OK?

    cheers

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    I read another post some time ago where someone was quoted $9000 to do the same work, so I spoke to my supplier [Imparts] & asked the question, "are parts very expensive for these engines?" His reply was no they aren't & he was appaled as much as I was at the price quoted.
    I would move away from whoever was quoting those silly prices. You need to enter your location so that other members can help steer you to someone who is trustworthy.
    The first thing to do is have the engine partly dismantled to assess the extent of any damage. On the T4 Forum in the UK there has been lots of reports on the parts that are damaged if the cam belt breaks. Generally the valves are bent on a couple of cylinders, camshaft breaks into a few pieces, cam followers & lifters crushed. There can also be other damage depending on how fast you were travelling at the time. Prices over there maybe 800 pounds or more. One member said he repaired his for not much more than VW wanted for a belt change. Here's a link to a Co. in the UK that reconditions engines.
    VW ENGINES AUDI ENGINE REBUILD ENGINES VOLKSWAGEN ENGINES GOLF POLO AUDI SEAT SKODA BORA CORRADO SHARAN CADDY JETTA ENGINES
    Your engine should be an AUF, scroll down & you will see a price of 1195 pounds. There is a company in Sydney called Just Campers that originally advertised rebuilt engines bought in from the UK.
    If it was my choice I would stay with what you have, you could be going from the frying pan into the fire.While the 5 cyl T5 doesn't have a cam belt it has other issues.!70,000km is nothing for the T4 TDI engine if you have serviced it regularly, & it sounds like you have.
    If you decide to buy another van, both the T4 & T5 have issues with their autos so go for the manual.
    Keep us posted & Good Luck.
    Last edited by jets; 02-06-2012 at 09:50 AM.
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
    2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
    Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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    yeah. it would be good to know where you are located!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gecko2k View Post
    yeah. it would be good to know where you are located!
    I'm in Melbourne.
    Car is at Volkspower

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    Interesting question you say the belt was changed in 09 how many kays since then has the van travelled ? t4,s I believe should have a belt interval of 100.000 kays I might be wrong someone correct me if this is incorrect .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdi View Post
    I'm in Melbourne.
    Car is at Volkspower
    There's one in Melbourne on Ebay for $5.000


    Volkswagon LT35 2004 Engine | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny43.5 View Post
    Interesting question you say the belt was changed in 09 how many kays since then has the van travelled ? t4,s I believe should have a belt interval of 100.000 kays I might be wrong someone correct me if this is incorrect .
    The belt needs to be replaced every 120,000kms.
    Mine was done at 124,000.
    Car had 174,000kms when belt failed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    There's one in Melbourne on Ebay for $5.000


    Volkswagon LT35 2004 Engine | eBay
    Gee I had my hopes up when I read this reply.
    Unfortunatelty it's for a LT or Crafter van not a T4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny43.5 View Post
    t4,s I believe should have a belt interval of 100.000 kays
    My book also says 120,000ks but I think VW have reduced this over the years since the book was printed. I thought it was down to 60,000km. I know they have introduced a time limit of every 4 years. I don't do many ks so the time period applies to our van.
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
    2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
    Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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    That would interest me as well. I thought also it was every 120.000kms or every 4 years.

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