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Thread: T4 stalling every 1000k HELP!

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    T4 stalling every 1000k HELP!

    Thankyou in advance for any help. My '01 t4 petrol 2.5 transporter has this odd fault. It will stall briefly under power at any speed, then run ok, then if stopped at lights will idle ok but stall again under power while trying to take off. This will happen a couple of times then run fine for another 800/1000 klm...and then does it again! The problem is always only under power.

    What's going on 'ere!!? Have searched threads but haven't been able to pin it down.

    Any ideas?? Thankyou...my Preggio driving mate is laughing at me!!

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    well, dose this model have the map sensor just after the air filter? if not there should be a vac line running to the ECU, check or replace this hose, but also there is a pice of hose in the ECU housing, these hoses may not be split but may be a bit blocked? also check the throttle body for carbon ect. Any fault codes would also be helpfull.

    Any other ideas anyone?????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwguru View Post
    well, dose this model have the map sensor just after the air filter? if not there should be a vac line running to the ECU, check or replace this hose, but also there is a pice of hose in the ECU housing, these hoses may not be split but may be a bit blocked? also check the throttle body for carbon ect. Any fault codes would also be helpfull.

    Any other ideas anyone?????????????
    hate to seem like an idiot but what does a map sensor look like and where do i find fault codes....and i know what an ECU does but have no idea where it is. I will check these when i find them.

    thankyou guru...i really appreciate your help.

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    Sounds like a sensor/failsafe issue.

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    Hi there,

    Your model has the MAP/MAF sensor (after the aircleaner). It has a metal strip (not heated wire) as the sensor inside the MAP/MAF sensor housing. They tend not affect running to the extent that you describe as it reverts to a defaut value if it is not working properly and should be still be ok under power. You can disconnect the lead to it to check.

    I would also suggest checking the coil, as a faulty coil can break down when reaching normal engine temperature. Also check plugs and leads, rotor and distributor cap.

    Also doubly check for major vaccum leaks on the inlet side, such as the inlet hose past the MAP sensor, and there is a vacuum hose that comes out of the inlet hose. Also check the brake master cylinder vaccum hose for leaks.

    Fuel pump on the way out/ fuel filter partially blocked?

    Does it do it when the fuel tank is near empty?

    Actual distributor fault?

    Check all ECU connections - including earth leads to the body of the vehicle.

    Just a few thoughts. It would be worth plugging it into a fault code reader to check for fault codes.

    Regards,

    Scott

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    Thanks for the replies. I replaced the dis cap and rotor before the last episode. Just keep looking i guess.

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    Thinking about this further. If it is running perfectly fine the rest of the time, it sounds like a loose electrical connection. Things to check. Earth leads from engine to vehicle body (unlikely), Knock sensors connections on the front lower section of engine block. Check O2 sensor connection (down stream from the exhaust down pipe). Blocked Catalytic converted intermittantly, Fuel pump connections, coil connections and HT lead?

    Does the engine stall like the ignition is turned off or just struggle for power?

    Cheers,

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Caravelle View Post
    Thinking about this further. If it is running perfectly fine the rest of the time, it sounds like a loose electrical connection. Things to check. Earth leads from engine to vehicle body (unlikely), Knock sensors connections on the front lower section of engine block. Check O2 sensor connection (down stream from the exhaust down pipe). Blocked Catalytic converted intermittantly, Fuel pump connections, coil connections and HT lead?

    Does the engine stall like the ignition is turned off or just struggle for power?

    Cheers,

    Scott
    It behaves like the ignition is switched off... and if stopped during an episode like a traffic light it will idle ok but refuse to accelerate as if you're turning the key on and off. Then it will behave itself and continue another 500/1000k.

    Thanks for the suggestions Scott. Will check as many connections i can get to.

    Thanks again,

    Don

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    Next time your T4 is in for service at the Mornington VW dealership get the mechanics to fault check the bus to see if any fault codes are stored in the memory of the ecu.
    Sounds like a faulty sensor, which defaults motor to shut down/limp mode momentarily. If that is the case, I don't think this will show up as faulty code.

    Otherwise just keep drivin' it.

    BTW how long has this been occurring?


    Tombi

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4don View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I replaced the dis cap and rotor before the last episode. Just keep looking i guess.


    what about the basics air filter, fuel filter and plugs have they all been looked at or replaced? check the coil (behind and below the left head light) are you useing good quality fuel?

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