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DVR68U t4 problems over fueling to... 25-12-2007, 03:48 PM
h100vw Does it not have diagnostics... 26-12-2007, 08:11 AM
Golf Loon You need to pull the codes... 26-12-2007, 09:53 AM
Jmac Bad for blue coolant temp... 27-12-2007, 06:42 PM
DVR68U could the ecu be reset or did... 30-12-2007, 02:44 PM
h100vw Check and see if the... 30-12-2007, 03:15 PM
Jmac H100vw great call mate seen... 30-12-2007, 08:03 PM
DVR68U yeah i had a phone call today... 30-12-2007, 10:20 PM
Jmac Donor ecu pal - Golf Loon is... 31-12-2007, 10:59 PM
h100vw If you can't get an ECU then... 31-12-2007, 11:13 PM
Golf Loon This van is cursed guys. ... 01-01-2008, 08:02 AM
gregozedobe Logic says it is the sensors... 01-01-2008, 08:13 AM
h100vw I'd have a look at the... 01-01-2008, 10:34 AM
Golf Loon Just got home and someone has... 01-01-2008, 01:35 PM
Jmac One thing i would try and... 01-01-2008, 03:25 PM
DVR68U well i have already earthed... 01-01-2008, 07:53 PM
h100vw What Jimmy is saying is open... 01-01-2008, 08:01 PM
DVR68U so the connector to the ecu,... 01-01-2008, 09:18 PM
DVR68U also once the ecu has been... 01-01-2008, 09:20 PM
Jmac Yeah just to clarify find the... 01-01-2008, 10:21 PM
DVR68U once again guys thanks for... 01-01-2008, 10:45 PM
DVR68U hey guys i checked the... 03-01-2008, 03:47 PM
DVR68U hey guys another update , i... 03-01-2008, 09:12 PM
Jmac o2 sensors can cause big... 03-01-2008, 09:34 PM
h100vw Jimmy, did you evre work on... 03-01-2008, 10:09 PM
DVR68U ill have a look at the... 03-01-2008, 10:26 PM
DVR68U hey guys it looks like i have... 04-01-2008, 03:21 PM
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  1. #1
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    hey guys i checked the resistance on the major earth on the ecu plug, my mulit meter was showing less than 0 ohms, so it seems to be well earthed. there was a smaller about 1mm brown and yellow i think wire that i assume is another earth wire and it showed .3 ohms on the 10x setting so around 3 ohms i think.
    i pulled out the o2 sensor but i have no other like it, so i couldnt swap it to try. i cleaned off the blackness lol and put it back in. i tryed to start with it unplugged and plugged in no difference.
    how or where can i get this damn thing fixed
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    hey guys another update , i fooled around again did so stuff cant really remeber now lol my brain is sore from staring at the motor. but i ended up splicing in a new 2nd hand o2 sensor from a 2.5l van and checked the sensor etc to make sure they where changing resistance for temp increase. got the van running and i ran for prob 30mins still seems abit rich , stumble from coasting to accel. but it didnt stall like it was before. ill have to wait untill the morning to see if it will start cold. here's hoping

    will the ecu relearn new values and settle down abit ?

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    o2 sensors can cause big enrichening problems for sure, only thing is on cold start the system is in open loop till warm then closed loop, thats when the sensors are important. Just refresh me again mate , does it happen warm or cold???? im like you my brain is hurting large day mate
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    Jimmy, did you evre work on any G60s. When they started over fuelling, you could tape the wide open throttle switch in so the ECU ignored the lambda probe and ran off stored maps. Basically putting it into open loop.

    Just wondering if it would be possible to do the same with this van.

    Brenton can you see the output of the probe using VAG-COM? Or stick your multimeter across the probe on volts. From cold the voltage will increase from 0 up towards a volt, once warmed up the voltage will hunt about a bit due to the slow sampling rate of the meter, but it will be indicating somewhere around 0.8 volts on average, showing that it is cycling up and down.

    Revving the engine will make the voltage go high and stick there briefly, a rich mixture to make the motor accelerate. When you come off the throttle, the output will drop to 0, over run cutoff, until the revs drop to 1500 or so then, the hunting up and down will start again.

    If you don't see what I have described above, you need to work out why.

    You could also check the throttle pot and switches with VAG-COM and make sure they are behaving properly, you can also see the water temp output too.

    Gavin

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    ill have a look at the readouts via multimeter 2moro gavin, the motor was warm when i changed the o2 sensor. and it seems to have leaned the fueling out a fair bit. ill have to see if i can start the van cold to see if the orginal problem is gone. i think the upgraded earths that i have placed around the engine has helped fix some of the problems.
    also which sensor tells the motor when to change to closed loop ?
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    hey guys it looks like i have fixed the van, lets hope it works cause im taking it down to canberra at 6 lol. so i reearthed the ecu, changed the 02sensor, changed the 2 and 4 pin sensors, cleaned air temp sensor, cleaned isv,
    if i break down ill just put a for sale sign on the van and walk home hahah
    thanks again guys for all the help ( gavin and jimmy ) lets hope this thread can help someone else in the future aswell. lots of good info one of the more indepth threads on the forum i think.
    have a good weekend guys
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    Gavin , yes i did heaps on the G60 mate right in ma prime then buddy!!!!! hehehe yeah Golf with the digifant did this too - you are right if the computer read wide open throttle then you go into open loop like you say as i has no need to be regulating at wide open. Yeah very good point mate. Only one other thing apart from the stuff we discussed is a blocked return line???? this will also make a system rich. But me thinks the earths and then a proper reset of the ecu would make 100% difference to the Van.
    CHeers mate
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