Thanks for the replies folks. I have searched far and wide to justify not buying the multivan after previous geabox issues. Everything else good though, however I simply can't find anything else relavent. I looked at the tarago v6, but drive away, your needing another 6-7 grand over the current price of 50 large for the comfortline. I need the size, so the new Honda is out as the middle seats and also rear 3 seats are simply too narrow for 3 genuine adult size. I would buy an imax but with all the deficiencies in terms of lack of curtain air bags etc its a no go zone. The other thing is that Cricks VW in Maroochydore offer the 6 year 200000 klms warranty if serviced with them, which is a huge bonus as aftermarket warranties are worth 3-4 grand normally and I certainly would want one after my last gearbox problems.

Anyway that's the state of play, so my wife tells me.