Lift kit for T5 4 Motion - supplier?

[Gold Coaster]

The Windows have a fine security crime safe type mesh that is in a slim aluminium frame bonded to the glass.

I think they were Global windows, but they can be ordered in from Southern Spirt Campers.

Sorry if this is a little off topic but could you please you give more detail about this ... I tried googling both Global Windows and Southern Spirit Campers but couldn't find anything ... but then again I'm not very computer savvy!

[Bryn23]

Sorry if this is a little off topic but could you please you give more detail about this ... I tried googling both Global Windows and Southern Spirit Campers but couldn't find anything ... but then again I'm not very computer savvy!

they have them listed on their ebay site

RV sliding window with screen- suits VW Transporter 2006 on- ideal for Campervan | eBay


I don't have any other info such as model numbers on them, other than i've got them fitted both sides

but you can get them cheaper by getting a quote of them.

i'm sure there is some detail on the windows, ill grab it tomorrow and see if i can get any manufacture specs.

[Bryn23]

Sorry for the delay, can't handle 40 degree heat in the workshop at the moment.

But i found the original stock height written down in the workshop and then remeasured today.

Stock

Driver Front 770 mm
Driver Rear 796 mm
Pass Front 768 mm
Pass Rear 785 mm

Seikel "Maxi" Lift after 4000km

Driver Front 803 mm + 33mm
Driver Rear 833 mm + 37mm
Pass Front 790 mm + 20mm
Pass Rear 833 mm + 48 mm

These are with the RIB bed (90kg) (Factory AUX battery 20kg?) and Under Chassis Wheelchair lift (140kg), so there currently is more weight on the passenger side from the battery, lift and bed.

I had removed the temp cabinet fit out to make the new cabinets out of lightweight ply, from memory, it was lower 5mm on the drivers side than the passenger when it was in.

I'll put up the new figures, once i get around to installing the new cabinets, new batteries and water tanks

[Syncrotek]

A few more part numbers if anyone's interested:-

Monroe front suspension strut numbers (VW T5 Transporter >3000KgGVM)

Text taken from strut body:-
[Monroe Made in Spain, G4C05, GM7, NV024/025C, 7H0413031N, 65337]

Further looking:-
V-4505 - Strut A2, AD, 219, MK271.

A2 - Part In Process, AD - Suits "Normal and Heavy Duty" suspension for all road conditions,
MK271 - top mount Kit,
219 - Part number V-4505 suits the following OE part numbers, 7H0 413 031 D, 7H0 413 031 G,
7H0 413 031 H, 7H0 413 031 K, 7H0 413 031 L, 7H0 413 031 M, 7H0 413 031 N (on vehicle now), 7H5 413
031 D, 7H5 413 031 G
(7H0 413 031 N - suits many, including vehicles with lowered running gear)

These struts had springs with 2 grey paint marks, 7E0 411105A
(PR-0JB weight category front axle weight range 2)

My original struts (unkown number) had springs with 1 grey, and 1 green paint marks, 7E0 411105C
(PR-1BJ Uprated suspension/shock absorbtion front and rear)
(PR-0JD, weight category front axle weight range 4)
(PR-0YC, Weight range 3 installation control only) whatever that means ?

Kings Springs KVFR19 raised front springs to be fitted.

Towing Eye PR Codes:- (unkown if these apply to Australian delivered T5s)
1F0 ASO Without towing eyes, front and rear
1F1 ASO One towing eye each side, front and rear
1F2 ASO Two front towing eyes and one rear towing eye
1F3 ASO One front towing eye
1F4 ASO One towing eye each side, front and rear (removable rear towing eye)
1F5 ASO One rear towing eye

[MAD]

A few more part numbers if anyone's interested:-

Monroe front suspension strut numbers (VW T5 Transporter >3000KgGVM)

Text taken from strut body:-
[Monroe Made in Spain, G4C05, GM7, NV024/025C, 7H0413031N, 65337]

Further looking:-
V-4505 - Strut A2, AD, 219, MK271.

A2 - Part In Process, AD - Suits "Normal and Heavy Duty" suspension for all road conditions,
MK271 - top mount Kit,
219 - Part number V-4505 suits the following OE part numbers, 7H0 413 031 D, 7H0 413 031 G,
7H0 413 031 H, 7H0 413 031 K, 7H0 413 031 L, 7H0 413 031 M, 7H0 413 031 N (on vehicle now), 7H5 413
031 D, 7H5 413 031 G
(7H0 413 031 N - suits many, including vehicles with lowered running gear)

These struts had springs with 2 grey paint marks, 7E0 411105A
(PR-0JB weight category front axle weight range 2)

My original struts (unkown number) had springs with 1 grey, and 1 green paint marks, 7E0 411105C
(PR-1BJ Uprated suspension/shock absorbtion front and rear)
(PR-0JD, weight category front axle weight range 4)
(PR-0YC, Weight range 3 installation control only) whatever that means ?

Kings Springs KVFR19 raised front springs to be fitted.

Towing Eye PR Codes:- (unkown if these apply to Australian delivered T5s)
1F0 ASO Without towing eyes, front and rear
1F1 ASO One towing eye each side, front and rear
1F2 ASO Two front towing eyes and one rear towing eye
1F3 ASO One front towing eye
1F4 ASO One towing eye each side, front and rear (removable rear towing eye)
1F5 ASO One rear towing eye

Nice info,
Please let us know how you go with the king springs, (please if you can measure between centre of wheel hub and under arch prior to and after fitting to give real lift specs (without tyre size being an variable))

Mines 1BB factory which puts heavier springs in the rear and supposedly upgraded struts and shocks , have not looked at the actual numbers on the parts but will update here when upgrading suspension (soon)

Regards

Mad

[MAD]

Hey Guys,

Have mentioned somewhere before but can't find it at the moment (maybe archived)
VB AIR suspension For VW transporters T5 and T6
I have been studying their products for quite a while now and went and spoke to the Aussie Supplier/agent installer today, VB AIR are relatively unheard of in Australia and in T5 T6 forums in general from my research , I mentioned the name a few times on this and other forums but know one seems to be aware of them Still,

They guy I spoke to was extremely Knowledgable of the system and T5 T6 installs they also do Amarok kits now for the Amarok Guys,

I was really wanting air all along so I could get it down for normal driving and up when required off road , there is a few kits available but 2 main kits the standard and raised (+30mm) , both have the off road setting but the +30mm raised Kit has a longer front strut from what I've studied (Not stroke just strut length from what I've calculated/but forgot to ask)

The System is not cheap so its up to the individual to come to terms with whether they can afford it or not for the many benefits available, I myself am choosing between a VB AIR 4C raised and a Seikel Desert HD monroe kit at this very moment also, the pricing difference is at very very different ends of the spectrum but they are 2 different ball parks in suspension also 1 gives lift and harshness the other gives plushness and Full range of on the guts to full lift as well as auto levelling option and other function options available,

Hope you guys get some chat going about this as I have mentioned a few times in different threads and forums hope fully someone who may have it fitted already could tell us what they think of the system

PS: Seikel have just released another Kit this week that Uses Koni shocks and struts giving 3 options for non maxi T5 and T6 transporters (same 30mm lift though)

Regards

MAD

[Syncrotek]

Adding some more measurements,

Measured spring lengths - free, removed from strut -
Kings (new) 335mm,
OEM (old, unknown kms) 355mm (20mm longer than Kings raised KVFR19)

Coil wire diameter (over paint) - oem = 16.2mm, Kings = 18.8mm
number of turns = 6 for both
Diameter oem = 183mm, Kings = 185mm

Monroe strut - full stroke* = 175mm (length of shaft 240mm to 65mm)
shaft diameter = 25mm, shaft thread length = 54mm
body diameter = 58mm
spring plate diameter = 205mm

* full stroke would not be achieved with assembled strut.

[Syncrotek]

...Hope you guys get some chat going..

Fitted air suspension in 2014, done about 20,000 kms, a lot over rough unpaved roads.
Knew and took the risks with air suspension, mainly unproven here in the T5 application at that time.
Airrex front and rear, with Accuair self levelling control. Generally that setup gave a very good ride
especially on dirt roads.
There are engineer requirements for NSW, probably other states too, adds to the cost.
Insurance co. was ok with modifications, no extra premium.

At about 10,000 kms the LH front strut broke a shaft, so fitted a used set of OEM struts while
deciding the future. Meanwhile rear air suspension has been trouble-free, spacers have been added
for more clearance.

Decided to give a bit of a lift to front with Kings raised springs.
Further to fitting Kings springs - removed old LH strut, dismantled, found it has very little resistance on
the down stroke, rough on the upstroke, leaked gas and oil. New struts ordered. Job is on hold.

ABP Bilstein front air struts look good, but so far unable to purchase seperately.

I checked most manufacturers including VB before fitting the AirRex, but they were not affordable
to the budget, when you do decide on a system make absolutely sure you are getting everything
you need when getting quotes. With VB you will probably get a properly engineered and top quality
suspension system, since they are/were offered as a VW option, - it's just that cost !, and for any
system, spare parts ?.

If my memory is ok, the VB was locally quoted then at about $10,000.00. fitted,
Drive-Rite at about $9,500.00. fitted.

[Bryn23]

My engineer that did the engineering on my van for Swivel seats and other items, told me i'd be looking at around that amount for air suspension and engineer plate.

He just said that most people just go the King spring with OEM struts for the extra lift on a T5/T6

I didn't go any further, as i was concerned about an Air system on rough roads and problems if out west and i couldn't fix it.

I just when with the Seikel HD monroe option, to get the lift i wanted, its better than i imagined, i don't have any harshness in ride quality empty or loaded.

I found it made a huge difference in ride quality loaded or unloaded over the OEM setup and anyone can work on a simple strut and spring setup.

Doesn't handle as well as my old WRX and GT, but pretty damm good for a van.

What does the Seikel Koni option offer over the Bilstien or Monroe version??

[MAD]

Adding some more measurements,

Measured spring lengths - free, removed from strut -
Kings (new) 335mm,
OEM (old, unknown kms) 355mm (20mm longer than Kings raised KVFR19)

Coil wire diameter (over paint) - oem = 16.2mm, Kings = 18.8mm
number of turns = 6 for both
Diameter oem = 183mm, Kings = 185mm

Monroe strut - full stroke* = 175mm (length of shaft 240mm to 65mm)
shaft diameter = 25mm, shaft thread length = 54mm
body diameter = 58mm
spring plate diameter = 205mm

* full stroke would not be achieved with assembled strut.

Hey Syncrotek

Finally someone who is going to the same anal true measurement real world (non marketing BS) detail that I will when my suspension arrives! (think I will have to have chat to you in the near future and discuss a few things if your willing chew the fat a bit ? been wanting these real world measurements from all suspension types before buying but don't the think many had the time to goto this detail, and I've already purchased on friday after waiting 2 years for this type of info )

PS: what is your Van type / year? just so we know which vehicle your specs are in relation too (i know most are similar but there are a fair few differences with some PR codes and suspensions)

Regards
MAD