intermittent idle dip at operating temp and find fault.

[Bill Lee]

Thanks sunny43.5 (degrees celcius?) but that only happens when I can't do any more. And its not likely with the likes of this.......

Starter motor, works still but why? If that kicks back because its broken, would that effect the electrics?? Food for thought.

You can go.....
I'll stay.
Till the next spooky thing, working, appears broken.

[TFour]

Hi Bill,
Interested to know, what was the final outcome / solution to your original post.

[Bill Lee]

OH, I've been right round the mill and STILL have no running vehical. A basic finalization is that I can't identify the exact cause. This being that it looked more like the starter plastic planetary gear being busted caused the inner motor to graze the complete starter as an earth, to short stuff out. I've replaced everything (more or less) and have made progress, but this all gets held up with the many things that were replaced but before I found the planetary grazing, so double checking is all thats left. This then leads to strange things like the ignition and ignition switch not meeting up at that pin Lego connection ?!?!? and finding that the vehical could've started long ago, its now by a screw driver. But the original problem has returned (hall senders gone making it 4-5 burned out) completing a full circle, so I guess when I can afford another it will start. Just weird stuff, not like a normal parts service and I put it down to bad upkeep of srevicing and some tricky things like working parts that are stuffed, but keep working.
But I can't emphasize how important it is to triple check .
The idle dip....was slightly straightened up when it started again, then died again, with some of the normal services and known tests lead to finding its problem. Its concept of dipping for me was not like the ecu developing a new fuel formulas from the fault in an air intake temp sender but from combined things making some adjustment to the output of the ecu's job AND a crack in the rotor allowing it to flap whilst spinning, a spark plug lead that isn't set right connectively and a dirty air filter box not operating properly ALL giving the ecu a bad reading to work off of.
Not usual ...!
There was also a thing with the immo being indecisive but I couldn't get by the immo off legally so a replacement got the nod instead.
I guess a 100 point check is the easiest explanation.
.....oh boy!.