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Thread: I am sad. My T4 has been eviscerated

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    I am sad. My T4 has been eviscerated

    Just a couple of weeks after getting the belts done in Adelaide, the extra power and glory released saw off the original dual mass flywheel and clutch. After 270,000 km one cannot be too disappointed except the repair is massive and stupid.

    The vehicle has been off the road for two weeks waiting for shop time and now being repaired. It has been mostly gutted with the engine and gearbox removed just to get at the bellhousing. It may never be the same again.

    Still...it could be waiting for the local VW dealer. They didn't have a slot for it until the 26th September and they wanted nearly three grand for the genuine parts alone.

    Next time I might just get a Hino or a Fusion or an Isuzu...

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    Sorry to hear that Seano. So who did you entrust to do the work for you? The $3000 seems very high to me. A quick check on Ebay shows a LUK DMF & clutch kit for 300 pounds [+freight] but they don't post to OZ. There must be others who will. On the Aust. Ebay , Valeo sell one for $617 including freight. The kits don't show a new slave cylinder that you need to fit at the same time.
    I will be interested to hear the labour cost on completion.
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
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    At least with a T4 engine gearbox combo they are relatively easy to remove , I did my sons transplant and got pretty quick with the R& R of the lump . Hardest part is the aircon gas recovery and regass .Dual mass flywheel what a pain in the butt eh .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jets View Post
    Sorry to hear that Seano. So who did you entrust to do the work for you? The $3000 seems very high to me. A quick check on Ebay shows a LUK DMF & clutch kit for 300 pounds [+freight] but they don't post to OZ. There must be others who will. On the Aust. Ebay , Valeo sell one for $617 including freight. The kits don't show a new slave cylinder that you need to fit at the same time.
    I will be interested to hear the labour cost on completion.
    So will I! They've been working on it for three days...

    It's getting a single mass flywheel.

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    OK...now it'll be another weekend. Went into the shop (an independent mechanic) and the front is still out of the T4 so it won't be running till Monday. The syncro driveline is not what they had imagined. And it needs some inner CV boots too.

    The DMF had basically gone bang. There's a hole in the side of it beside the ring gear that's the size of a ten cent piece. The resultant debris has scored the inside of the bell housing but not seriously. What has caused the hole is unknown but the flywheel is over rotating so it's rooted. The clutch itself still had quite some life in it according to the mechanic.

    Five days worth of labour is going to sting...

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    T4s always need CV boots.
    I think it was a design fail.
    I think I had the CVs themselves replaced twice over 600k and the boots replaced six times!
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    OK. It's back in one piece and can move under its own steam. I'll pick it up today. And leave $3,697 with the mechanic. Not as bad as I thought it might be.

    I'll break that up for the audience in another post.

    As for CV boots...I don't go through that many. Perhaps I've done 4 and one (rear) driveshaft in 16 years.

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    Righto...$950 for the clutch and flywheel kit, $150 for the air-conditioning regas, 24 hours labour @$90 per hour ($2,160), $59 for the CV boot kit and $39 for coolant,hoses and workshop supplies. Plus GST.

    How's that sound? It seems to work by the way...

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    $90 an hour labour. Wish I could get it that cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seano View Post
    How's that sound?
    It sounds very realistic. Hopefully it will last just as long as the original.
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
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