Height of Jacking points

[Tornado T5]

Hey Tornado,

I can see why you need the extra GVM, there is approx 950kg, depending on the density of the liquid, plus the cage, add a driver and passenger and a full tank of gas, you would be close to the payload with that.

Push the sales guy's, all they have to do is call there regional reps, to confirm.

It seems odd to for VWA to limit our choice here, even NZ has better options than what we have.
2800 GVM, 3000 GVM and 3200 GVM, plus a better range of options.

It is annoying that we can't order the TDI450 for the transporter now, i would have jumped at it, it's all about profit, more money to be made by selling TDI400, until they are force to go to Euro6.

Don't tell anyone but it's actually a 1050Kg in the IBC plus container, plus 91kg of me..and an empty fuel tank

Back on topic, in my previous T4 which had inflatable inserts within the rear springs for load height sag , I got a rear left flat with almost similar load on board and had to call a mobile tyre service because the jack had trouble lifting the van, or the van started to buckle I bought a similar jack to that shown above later but as discussed need to use the factory jack to raise it enough to then use the heavy duty type.

[Merrill Levi]

g'day Bryn

I have a Trakka supplied Transporter MY14 3200 GVM TDI 400 DSG LWB 4Motion with factory fitted Seikel HD raised suspension - this is my 9th bus (16th vw) and is by far the BEST suspension setup of any VW I have driven, I use it as my daily ride.

Tyres are 215/60 R17 - sidewall height when inflated & vehicle is on the ground 100mm, off the ground 107mm

As for my jacking setup, the front jacking point is 260mm above ground, rear jacking point is 310mm above ground.

The jack supplied by Trakka (not VW) for 3200GVM is an Omega BST2000 bottle jack rated to 2,000 kg. Retracted stands at 250mm, fully extended is 470mm

doing the maths on that - the frikken jack is not tall enough to put on a fully inflated rear tyre - on level ground ! - as another poster noted, blocks of wood are your friend, for so many reasons in addition to changing tyres, I now carry 4x80mm treated pine sleeper off cuts, usually used in leveling the vehicle at dodgy camp sites.

For what it is worth, it is possible at the time of ordering the vehicle, to have additional Seikel items put inside the car for shipping to Oz, I ordered the Seikel sump & gearbox bash plates that shipped inside the car & were fitted in Oz.

ML

[Big Bug]

The jack supplied by Trakka (not VW) for 3200GVM is an Omega BST2000 bottle jack rated to 2,000 kg. Retracted stands at 250mm, fully extended is 470mm

ML
The measurements of your BST2000 are interesting. The Omega website TELESCOPIC HYDRAULIC BOTTLE JACKS shows that the BST has a min height of 181mm not 250mm your tape measure shows. That measurement is closer to the BSI2000 on the shinnfu web sight HYDRAULIC IN-LINE BOTTLE JACKS but your jack clearly says it's a BST2000........ The Blackwoods website shows the same heights as Shinnfu. Interesting, wrong label or been a design change!!!!!

You all set me thinking as I have a 4 ton from Supercheap or Repco, I forget which but I confess I hadn't given the flat tyre jacking height a thought. Particularly with a load on. Urgent action needed.....

Bruce CQ

[Merrill Levi]

g'day Bruce,

I reckon you are on it re wrong sticker, the sticker on the back of the jack agree's with your info - min=181mm max=442, but I am fairly confident in the Stanley tape measure. Did not look like 181 to my eye so I got out the tape.

ML

[Bryn23]

g'day Bryn

I have a Trakka supplied Transporter MY14 3200 GVM TDI 400 DSG LWB 4Motion with factory fitted Seikel HD raised suspension - this is my 9th bus (16th vw) and is by far the BEST suspension setup of any VW I have driven, I use it as my daily ride.

Tyres are 215/60 R17 - sidewall height when inflated & vehicle is on the ground 100mm, off the ground 107mm

As for my jacking setup, the front jacking point is 260mm above ground, rear jacking point is 310mm above ground.

The jack supplied by Trakka (not VW) for 3200GVM is an Omega BST2000 bottle jack rated to 2,000 kg. Retracted stands at 250mm, fully extended is 470mm

doing the maths on that - the frikken jack is not tall enough to put on a fully inflated rear tyre - on level ground ! - as another poster noted, blocks of wood are your friend, for so many reasons in addition to changing tyres, I now carry 4x80mm treated pine sleeper off cuts, usually used in leveling the vehicle at dodgy camp sites.

For what it is worth, it is possible at the time of ordering the vehicle, to have additional Seikel items put inside the car for shipping to Oz, I ordered the Seikel sump & gearbox bash plates that shipped inside the car & were fitted in Oz.

ML

Hey Merrill,

Those 215/60 R17... were did you get those, i'm assuming they are a Trakka Special Tire, haven't seen a AT tire with a load rating of 103 in that size.

i see that you can get a Trakka offload pack with those tires. i just can't seem to find any company that makes them.

[Merrill Levi]

g'day Bryn,

The tyres I have are not 103's, they are 109/107t - full designation "Goodyear - CARGO VECTOR 2 215/60 R17 109/107T"

the originals are as supplied by Trakka, however I now know Honda Civic front fenders are very sharp against a rear left tyre, panel beaters did not have trouble finding replacement, I can enquire with them if you like. LINK show tread pattern.

My previous bus was a 2010 T5 132 diesel Multivan, and that had 103's fitted. My current bus is LWB, so I guess that is why they fitted the heavier loading tyres

ML

[Bryn23]

Cheers Merrill,

I was under the impression that the Trakka ones were All Terrain on their Offroad pack for the 215/60 R17 from reading a few reviews.

The 109/107T is a strong tire.

All VW Multivan/Transporters are plated 103 Load rated in Australia, regardless if they are 3000 or 3200gvm and don't need the 103 Load.

The VW UK is more flexible and VW supplies the 2600-2800-3000-3200 GVM van with the light load rating tires for each van load rating.

If we had that here, it would be easier to find All Terrain load rated tires for the 3000GVM a the axe load is 1600kg which is a load rating of 100.

Just thought after reading the review of the Trakka and looking at their website, i thought i'd struck gold with finding a All Terrain with the same Rolling Diameter.

[gadgconv]

I've ordered the 3200GVM LWB Special Order and with these models you don't get a spare or jack, just a can of tire repair.
So I'm getting a Spare Tire to fit once its arrived,

We're considering replacing our T5 Multivan with a LWB Multivan but, because of there being no spare tyre, had just about ruled it out. Do you know whether it's possible on the LWB model to fit a spare tyre under the rear of the vehicle in the place it's fitted from the factory on SWB models, or are you going to store your spare somewhere else in/on the vehicle?

[Bryn23]

We're considering replacing our T5 Multivan with a LWB Multivan but, because of there being no spare tyre, had just about ruled it out. Do you know whether it's possible on the LWB model to fit a spare tyre under the rear of the vehicle in the place it's fitted from the factory on SWB models, or are you going to store your spare somewhere else in/on the vehicle?

I wasn't aware that the multivan didn't have a spare tire, i thought they did, the highline does.

All u need for the spare tire is the mounting kit, which can be ordered through VW, you just need a vin number of a van that has it. (SWB or LWB, they are all the same mountings.)

Or if you want an over sized tire larger than 726mm i recall, you will need a Seikel Oversized tire mounting kit.

[gadgconv]

I wasn't aware that the multivan didn't have a spare tire, i thought they did, the highline does.
All u need for the spare tire is the mounting kit, which can be ordered through VW, you just need a vin number of a van that has it. (SWB or LWB, they are all the same mountings.)
Or if you want an over sized tire larger than 726mm i recall, you will need a Seikel Oversized tire mounting kit.

The T6 Executive (LWB) doesn't come with a spare wheel or even with the option to have a spare wheel, just the tyre repair kit. The T6 Highline (SWB) and the T6 Comfortline SWB come with a spare wheel. I'm not sure whether the T6 Comfortline LWB comes with a spare wheel, or even the spare wheel as an option, or with a tyre repair kit.
I wasn't sure whether it would simply be a matter of installing a mounting kit as you've suggested, or whether there might be something (eg the space where a tyre would go on a SWB T6 Multivan might on the LWB T6 Multivan Executive be taken up by something else and there might be no space to instal a mounting kit and tyre) making it impossible for the Executive model to have a mounting kit and tyre installed.