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Sunny43.5 DSG is it that good ? 25-03-2012, 06:17 PM
Guest In response the question in... 25-03-2012, 06:47 PM
blutopless2 boy.... how to respond to... 25-03-2012, 07:17 PM
kamold Yes. Had two now. See sig.... 25-03-2012, 08:00 PM
Sunny43.5 As Blutopless2 has said... 25-03-2012, 08:11 PM
kamold I drove another forum members... 02-05-2012, 08:16 PM
SnowMotion I have a 2012 T5 4motion... 02-05-2012, 09:39 PM
Sunny43.5 I forgot something in... 02-05-2012, 10:15 PM
REVHE4D the dsg was not built for... 03-05-2012, 12:07 PM
greymad My 2011 T5 camper is 132kw, 7... 03-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Sunny43.5 Sorry to go over old... 03-05-2012, 08:01 PM
Guest Yes, it was the lag,... 03-05-2012, 08:14 PM
question? I asked for them to check for... 03-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Guest Sorry if I missed it, but... 03-05-2012, 08:40 PM
greymad John, yours is a diesel?... 03-05-2012, 09:58 PM
Transporter I think that 4Motion comes... 03-05-2012, 02:23 PM
Guest Gotta say....I love my DSG. I... 03-05-2012, 04:33 PM
REVHE4D Well that has me slightly... 04-05-2012, 08:55 AM
gavs Sharkie, I don't have any of... 05-05-2012, 10:16 AM
Guest Same here Sharkie.....I have... 05-05-2012, 11:47 AM
Tornado T5 I wonder if the 7spd DSG... 05-05-2012, 01:46 PM
Sunny43.5 As the instigator of this... 05-05-2012, 06:53 PM
Diesel_vert VW's double-clutch gearboxes... 05-05-2012, 10:02 PM
Sunny43.5 I stand corrected on the... 05-05-2012, 11:11 PM
greymad Let me try again: our 2011... 21-05-2012, 10:52 AM
buzuki the ZF 8 speed is rumoured to... 21-05-2012, 06:55 PM
Sunny43.5 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... 21-05-2012, 10:47 PM
greymad After surfing around, I find... 23-05-2012, 08:54 PM
Tornado T5 Greymad, is there any way you... 24-05-2012, 08:41 AM
greymad Where should I look after I... 24-05-2012, 09:12 AM
Tornado T5 Hopefully the dealer could... 24-05-2012, 09:50 AM
Luke I have scans from VCDS. This... 24-05-2012, 05:35 PM
Tornado T5 Thanks Luke, wonder if... 24-05-2012, 08:54 PM
greymad Sorry to do this to you but... 25-05-2012, 11:04 AM
Guest I'll check my recent VAGCOM... 25-05-2012, 11:22 AM
Tornado T5 Vagcom (?), or whatver now... 25-05-2012, 11:46 AM
ian Only last week i had 3... 05-08-2012, 04:40 PM
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    Greymad, is there any way you can determine the software version of your dsg and then match that with what it should be post upgrade? In my discussions with the comm. sales manager of a local VW dealer he did state that there was an upgrade which has specifically fixed this issue because it was something I raised when I joked and said could he order me a MY13 T5GP with the Amorok's auto and I'd sign now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado T5 View Post
    Greymad, is there any way you can determine the software version of your dsg and then match that with what it should be post upgrade? In my discussions with the comm. sales manager of a local VW dealer he did state that there was an upgrade which has specifically fixed this issue because it was something I raised when I joked and said could he order me a MY13 T5GP with the Amorok's auto and I'd sign now.
    Where should I look after I lift the bonnet?
    Other than the TB-35-11-01 correction, there is also upgrade 37G2 which seems to deal also with the "dry" DSG lag/hesitation.
    See my last post in the Golf section of VW Watercooled.
    Thanks for taking an interest in my problem - I suspect there are many of us out there in the same frustrated state.
    In every other respect I'm rapt with the DSG, but as it is it's potentially dangerous.

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    Hopefully the dealer could answer that and possibly with some kind help from a (local to you) forum member that can hook up their vagcom (?? I'm ignorant of this software) also to verify. I know it's a major pain and I guess as with PC's not all upgrades actually take place thanks to Windows.

    I've got an interest in this because I'm looking at eventually replacing my van and could have the prospect of staff needing to drive it (as little as possible If I can, lol) and it's the occassional driver that will be caught out moreso.
    Last edited by Tornado T5; 24-05-2012 at 10:00 AM.

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    I have scans from VCDS. This is the auto trans one... cant really tell anything about the software versions.

    This is from 2011 132kw DSG multivan:

    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0BT-300-045.clb
    Part No SW: 0BT 300 045 J HW: 0BH 927 711 C
    Component: DSG DQ500-7F H04 1408
    Revision: 00H04V01
    Coding: 0014
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
    ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_VN75.rod
    VCID: 3C7330C3034F

    No fault code found.

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    Thanks Luke, wonder if "revision" refers to software version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    I have scans from VCDS. This is the auto trans one... cant really tell anything about the software versions.

    This is from 2011 132kw DSG multivan:

    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0BT-300-045.clb
    Part No SW: 0BT 300 045 J HW: 0BH 927 711 C
    Component: DSG DQ500-7F H04 1408
    Revision: 00H04V01
    Coding: 0014
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
    ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_VN75.rod
    VCID: 3C7330C3034F

    No fault code found.
    Sorry to do this to you but you're dealing with a greybeard here ... "Vagcom" means nothing to me, and what should I be learning from the above gobbledygook (that's pretty much what it is to me - again, sorry...).
    I rang $olitaire and spoke to "the man" who actually gets to work on the cars and guess what - he's never heard of a "dry" 7speed DSG with a problem here in Oz (of any sort? I can't believe it!). This, despite all the similar sounding problems which have occurred in USA.
    Anyway, it's booked for him to test drive it (15th June - they're obviously very busy!) so I wait with bated breath and in the hope that I won't in the meantime be T-boned at an intersection or roundabout.
    Gripping stuff, all this (not). Thanks again for your replies, guys

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    I'll check my recent VAGCOM scans to compare with yours later today.
    When my software was updated, the only remarks about it on the invoice are as follows:


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    Quote Originally Posted by greymad View Post
    Sorry to do this to you but you're dealing with a greybeard here ... "Vagcom" means nothing to me, and what should I be learning from the above gobbledygook (that's pretty much what it is to me - again, sorry...).
    I rang $olitaire and spoke to "the man" who actually gets to work on the cars and guess what - he's never heard of a "dry" 7speed DSG with a problem here in Oz (of any sort? I can't believe it!). This, despite all the similar sounding problems which have occurred in USA.
    Anyway, it's booked for him to test drive it (15th June - they're obviously very busy!) so I wait with bated breath and in the hope that I won't in the meantime be T-boned at an intersection or roundabout.
    Gripping stuff, all this (not). Thanks again for your replies, guys
    Vagcom (?), or whatver now used is the software you can obtain and then connect say a laptop to your car to read/check/make a whole range of changes etc as a dealer would. A simple one would say be logging in to change your door locking sequence to open driver's door on one press and all doors after 2 presses of the key remote fob ..etc...I can tell you the Commercial Sales manager at Barloworld VW Bayside Moorabbin (Vic) and the service guys at Burwins VW also have discussed the dsg software update for lag with me and I don't even own a dsg T5. One trick I finally learned to overcome the lag was actually try and take-off earlier then I would normally think I had to, sounds strange/confusing and not how it should be for ease of driving however it's like I had to prempt the dsg and act a split second earlier then I would in the conventional auto of my T5. Must say getting back into my T5 seemed less stressful and possibly after longer term ownership it would become second nature...or not
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    Sounds like more trouble than its worth , why should owners have to adapt to an auto that by the sounds of it has a problem that millions of $$$$ worth of developement and testing did not show up or was it just ignored once released Hmmmm . I have only experienced a DSG once in a Skoda hire car I honestly thought I had completly lost the ability to drive a conventional car as opposed to a heavier van as this thing lurched off from stop making a smooth flow in low speed traffic a nightmare . Picture this , taking of with a lurch then having to brake to stop before hitting the car in front .

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