09 Auto 128kw T5 transmisson isn't as smooth :(

[lemmiwinks]

How much is Fuchs 440? And where can it be purchased?

[Ivo]

How much is Fuchs 440? And where can it be purchased?

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From memory its about $15/lt. Possibly less.

[Silver Caravelle]

Thanks for this. I will definately follow up with the dealer. Yes they attach the carbon copy to the invoice, but have not sighted the auto service wording to date. Cheers, Scott

Hi all, I clarified this with the dealer earlier today, 60K auto service applies to DSG box; no update from VW for earlier the 6 speed auto. I will get my auto fluid checked (sampled) at 60K and either get it serviced then or the 75K service. Cheers, Scott

[Sunny43.5]

I spoke to a service manager at a VW dealership last week and he told me that VW are now supplying dealers with special tooling to allow them to service early model T5 autos . Great what about all the mug punters who followed VW,s early speil about "non servicable trannies " and continued to drive them beause the only alternative according to VW is to replace the whole box if it plays up . I am getting more and more peed off about this and and considering taking some action , when you buy these vehicles they tell you that the VW trained dealers are the best place to have your VW looked after and then they just treat you like you have and endless supply of money to replace the box if it fails . I am booking mine in to two different dealers to get a diagnostic report on the trannie these will then be sent to VWAU for them to see what is going on and if proven that the fault is with an internal component and not electrical I am going to start malking some noise , because if the box is "sealed for life" they should be responsible for repairs .!!!!!

[Umai Naa!!]

They're no different to service than the auto in early MK5 Golfs. The tools are the same. It's just that at the tme, VW (presumably on the advice of AISIN) did not stipulate a service interval for them.

The argument you're presenting, could be used by those that administered the previous incarnation of Vick's Vapour Drops up until the 'New Longer-Lasting' version came out.

You could drag this as far back into past models as you like (There's broken MK3 Golf autos in scrap bins everywhere!). Nothing will change. VW are more interested in what's going on with their current model line-up now. If the transmission has failed due to the quality of the oil, VW will then detirmine whether they will spring for a replacement unit or not.

[Sunny43.5]

"Quote " They're no different to service than the auto in early MK5 Golfs. The tools are the same. It's just that at the tme, VW (presumably on the advice of AISIN) did not stipulate a service interval for them.
Then if this means that if the box fails then responsibility falls to VW to give satisfactory help to an owner like me who believes that because of lack of a service interval chances of a failure are much higher . Its not as if this van has been thrashed the van has been used for much less than it was built for in terms of load carrying etc. There is obviously some component that is failing probably a valve body this part may have been made to fault because of degredation of fluid which VW "at the time would not replace " because VW says its "sealed " for life. I can,t imagine that you would condone a companies policy to just ignore this sort of thing , I believe personally its time to make a serious attempt to get some more positive outcome . Lets face it do all of us have thousands of dollars just laying around to replace components that should not fail because of some design parameter .This problem raised its head when the van had only 80,000 ks I would expect a van that cost over $50,000 to give better reliability , especially when you consider the diesel engine with its 128kw output will be good for over 300,000 plus with out a major rebuild !!!!! I think a car company who make hundreds of millions dollars profit each year could easily give better support to a problem of their making .

[Umai Naa!!]

Lets go back to the start.

You've had the vehicle's fault diagnosed by the dealer, yes?

[Sunny43.5]

No I was just stunned when they told me they would not service the box they did not even suggest that they would run a diagnostic test all they would tell me was that they would only replace the box if it plays up becuase it is "sealed for life". So I did not return to them but in saying that I have since corresponded with VW Australia and they have suggested that I get it diagnosed to see what turns up , I just hope that maybe they will be forced to admit that the service recomendations for australian vans is not suitable as I pointed out apparently VW dealers are now being supplied with the neccesary tooling to service the older ones . What does that tell you ????

[lemmiwinks]

If you have the time and money, I don't see why you wouldn't win the case in court. It's very much like Toyota's false advertising in regards to the Prius' fuel economy, which ended up in favour of the Prius owners.

VW are pretty much stating that the T5 Auto box will last for "life". And If it doesn't last for "life" I don't see why you wouldn't win the case in court.

[Ivo]

I just had mine flushed with Fuchs ATF 4400. Its got 50k km on and the old ATF oil was dirty. They fitted a new gasket and filter and used about 11lts of oil.

There is a Fuchs distributor next to the mechanics I use, they looked up the recommended oil on a German database system and ATF 4400 was the recommended oil. They also laughed about sealed for life. In their words and my mechanics, sealed for life according to VW is 5 years!