Any Better Than a Colorado ?

**Sharkie** · 11-05-2011, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by calibrated

can you provide a source for the engine failure's? I have not heard of any.

Oettinger .... hence the reason they restrict their 2.0TTDI tunes to 140kw .....

.... and the failures have not been happening on their tuned engines either .... when a German tuning company with close ties to VW gets nervous I take notice ....

**kil0watt** · 11-05-2011, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by gavs

So I am saying "my ute is better than your ute" without evidence? How about 2 in a company fleet, PLUS a D-max (in case you are wondering, it is identical) that continually have problems and bar the D-Max, the tubs are cracked on both the holden products, the D-max has only done 2000kms so it's just a matter of time.

Hell, great wall copied the isuzu product and made it better!

What problems are you continually having with them? I would like you to tell me what vehicle I can buy that has no problems what-so-ever....that's right one doesn't exist. Every car manufacturer has dramas and I bet the Amarok will suffer it's fair share of problems as has the BT-50/Ranger, Triton, Hilux, D-MAX/Colorado and Navara. As for the Great Wall, it actually only copied the panels with a different front end. It runs Mitsubishi and Toyota drive line bits and pieces and if you think it's better than the Colorado than good for you.

**sh|tbmxrider** · 11-05-2011, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by kil0watt

Amarok is nice, however the Colorado is a solid ute, anyone who says different is probly another one of those "my ute's better than yours because it's newer and flashier or has this or that badge on it".........don't become one of those fools. The Colorado is made mostly from Isuzu parts, albeit put together by holden but the engine and other important parts are Isuzu and that's what matters. Now it may not be as refined or as car like but it is what it is, a well priced commerical ute with arguably the toughest drive train going around. I really like the Amarok and think it looks great however please don't bad mouth the Colorado until you get some km's up on these amaroks cause i'd honestly be surprised if the engine in these is as durable as the Isuzu's unit which has proven to be a 400,000km engine so far

Not even put together by Holden, Isuzu build the damn things in the same factory as D-Max

I have had 3 D-Max's... and apart from them being a little agricultural, with a few annoying issues (squeek from front suspension, broke the lid off the centre console) they were, for the most part, a nice truck. I am sure the Amarok is nicer to drive. Will it be as durable as the D-Max? Only time will tell(if we stand this test of time)

FWIW: the 3 D-Max's were driven (company cars) for 6 months each, all got to 40k

**Transporter** · 12-05-2011, 07:55 AM

Hmm, many "1/2 emty glass" type people here. I'd like to bring a bit of optimism in the discussion.
Our 2008 Touareg done over 50,000km and is very reliable, solid as rock, no wander they won last 3 Dakar rallyes, the last one was from start to finish and the competetion didn't stand a chance.

Amarok is built from the same parts bins, so I would expect durability there, the 4 cylinder engine is well proven and I'm sure it will be OK under the Amarok's bonnet.

**dbrad** · 12-05-2011, 08:42 AM

Problem with the Colorado and D-Max for some business leasing/purcahsing is they have only 3 star safety rating. If you look at crash test videos comparing them with the Triton/Hilux/Amarok you can see why and it's not just the airbags.

**turdal44** · 12-05-2011, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by dbrad

Problem with the Colorado and D-Max for some business leasing/purcahsing is they have only 3 star safety rating. If you look at crash test videos comparing them with the Triton/Hilux/Amarok you can see why and it's not just the airbags.

I have done some research on the amarok and other dual cabs in the class and safety and economy are the two stand out fields you can try to compare any vehicle with another but the only true way is to have them from a starting point and drive them in an identical manner,

**Sharkie** · 12-05-2011, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Transporter

Hmm, many "1/2 emty glass" type people here. I'd like to bring a bit of optimism in the discussion.

Not so much 1/2 empty as sick and tired of people always dishing other brands and holding VW up as the bees knees ..... when its not. There are more reliable and nicer to drive cars (and utes) out there, just not necessarily in the same package ..... VW has had its share of issues over the years and its pretty stupid to expect a brand new model to be faultless straight off ..... I'm expecting teething issues which will no doubt be rectified as time goes on.

As far as this thread goes, there is nothing wrong with going for a Rodeo/Colorado/D-Max as there are more to utes than just a bigger tub and a "nicer" inside, and as always we have the VW fanbois dishing anything else.

I'm a VW fan and will buy a Rodeo over a Amarok at this point in time as my needs in a ute is not being met by the Amarok right now.

Originally Posted by Transporter

Amarok is built from the same parts bins, so I would expect durability there, the 4 cylinder engine is well proven and I'm sure it will be OK under the Amarok's bonnet.

2.0TTDI is not so well proven in reality, its pretty new as far as engines go .....

EDIT: and as far as long term reliability goes ..... every new VW I have ever bought (6 in total out of 9) have had some kind of fairly significant warranty repair except for the Multivan ...... every new Toyota and the new V6 Isuzu DC (Rodeo) I bought did not ever have a warranty repair ..... 90000km+ on all of them .....

**Transporter** · 12-05-2011, 03:15 PM

Sharkie, what was wrong with your Tiguan?

**Sharkie** · 12-05-2011, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Transporter

Sharkie, what was wrong with your Tiguan?

All I'm saying is, it spent a week at VW having something fairly major replaced under warranty ..... it was a year old and had 8000km on it .... it even had to be towed in ....