Amarok at AIMS 2010

[Transporter]

Whats the bloody test?

You shouldn't ask. Now, the conversation died. I suppose we have to assume that chassis bending is real and reconsider purchase if Amarok would be used for frequent off road duties. Triton looks good at the moment and certainly price is competitive, few of my customers now changed from Navara to Triton and they're really happy with it. Two weeks ago, I did 10,000km service on 2.5CRD dual cab and kind of like what I saw... and ques what? No DPF!

[DionM]

Mitsu have been very proactive on the DPF issue. 2009 Pajeros had issues with it, so in 2010 they removed it ...

[gavs]

Sorry I haven't replied in a while guys, things have been more than a bit hectic at work so time isn't something I haven't had the liberty of.

Look, to try and douse the flames a bit from earlier on, I can't disclose any other info which I am sorry about but I am sure that any of you cannot tell me about every sorded detail of anything that you are working on at work, especially if you are not a company owner. Some of you know where I work and will draw your own conlusions, that is why I may come accross a little vague in some posts or replies.

To keep enthusiasm up and so people don't start throwing their hands in the air saying "bloody VAG, I knew they would screw the car up", I will say that this is the result of new pedestrian impact safety regulations for the EU, soon apparently getting introduced here. This results in a chassis front that cannot be utilised like other manufacturers because the whole front is one giant assembly. There are ways around it, it just takes time though. This could also be why the rumours of only plastic frontal protection systems will be introduced at an OE level....

[Transporter]

I know mate, and understand. We are grateful for even small info or head up and it's good to have members like you in the forum.

[phaeton]

Sorry I haven't replied in a while guys, things have been more than a bit hectic at work so time isn't something I haven't had the liberty of.

Look, to try and douse the flames a bit from earlier on, I can't disclose any other info which I am sorry about but I am sure that any of you cannot tell me about every sorded detail of anything that you are working on at work, especially if you are not a company owner. Some of you know where I work and will draw your own conlusions, that is why I may come accross a little vague in some posts or replies.

To keep enthusiasm up and so people don't start throwing their hands in the air saying "bloody VAG, I knew they would screw the car up", I will say that this is the result of new pedestrian impact safety regulations for the EU, soon apparently getting introduced here. This results in a chassis front that cannot be utilised like other manufacturers because the whole front is one giant assembly. There are ways around it, it just takes time though. This could also be why the rumours of only plastic frontal protection systems will be introduced at an OE level....

So what your possibly saying is, VW may not be the first to fail this tests once the next gen of utes get this EU reg on their vehicles.

Incidently do you guys report back to the manufacturer as an aid for future development of their product?

[sh|tbmxrider]

I think I understand where you are heading now, re: problem.

[gavs]

So what your possibly saying is, VW may not be the first to fail this tests once the next gen of utes get this EU reg on their vehicles.

Incidently do you guys report back to the manufacturer as an aid for future development of their product?

When it comes to dealing with OE auto companies, in their minds they are never wrong. Feeding back information to them is redundant unless you are an OE supplier, otherwise they generally come back with an answer of "you were doing it wrong!" which as ridiculous as it sounds, is what you are told. They will always try and discount you as a manufacturer, which is why you have to always engineer your products to be better and stronger than the original vehicle. On the other hand, you also have to make sure that if something does fail, it is not a result of your product but neglect by the vehicle manufacturer.

If you look at the last 3 models on the market (BT-50 especially), you can see by their frontal design that they have been designed for a specific regulation. Good luck trying to get a neat fitting and looking frontal protection setup on the new BT-50 when it gets here!

[flyingfridge]

I know you can't confirm or deny this gavs, but I would surmise that it's related to the pedestrian frontal crash tests and the fitment of bull bars to crash boxes that are designed to deform and maybe something to do with bullbar/winch tows/mounts...

[gavs]

Sam, you're right, I can't confirm or deny anything