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    Upgraded Brake pads for Mk1

    What do you guys recommend as an upgrade to improve on the (already) woeful disk brakes on a Mk 1.?? EBC Greenstuff and if so, where is the best place to buy them in OZ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubai gti View Post
    What do you guys recommend as an upgrade to improve on the (already) woeful disk brakes on a Mk 1.?? EBC Greenstuff and if so, where is the best place to buy them in OZ??
    You would be better off spending your money on a MK2 servo and master cylinder.

    If not an option probably Autobahn
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubai gti View Post
    What do you guys recommend as an upgrade to improve on the (already) woeful disk brakes on a Mk 1.?? EBC Greenstuff and if so, where is the best place to buy them in OZ??
    Do you mean just 'upgrade' the pad

    Without upgrading other brake component, it won't help, just waste your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisben View Post
    You would be better off spending your money on a MK2 servo and master cylinder.

    If not an option probably Autobahn
    Hey Ben,

    Are you back on the road yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gordymatt View Post
    Hey Ben,

    Are you back on the road yet?
    Yes bro, got it sorted last night, need to steam clean the engine bay , fir new rocker cover gasket(en route) but yeah up and running and driveable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubai gti View Post
    What do you guys recommend as an upgrade to improve on the (already) woeful disk brakes on a Mk 1.?? EBC Greenstuff and if so, where is the best place to buy them in OZ??
    Green stuff would probably make the brakes worst are they have a very low friction co-ef when cold, and don't get alot better when hot... Decent standard street pads would probably be a better option than going to the Greens. What pads are you currently running?

    As has been said, you'd be better off sourcing Mk2 gear, but if you really don't want to go down that path (and you're sure your current setup is in good condition) we could look at getting some high friction pads made up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gslrallysport View Post
    Green stuff would probably make the brakes worst are they have a very low friction co-ef when cold, and don't get alot better when hot... Decent standard street pads would probably be a better option than going to the Greens. What pads are you currently running?

    As has been said, you'd be better off sourcing Mk2 gear, but if you really don't want to go down that path (and you're sure your current setup is in good condition) we could look at getting some high friction pads made up...
    Yes I would deffo check you have no airleaks to servo wise. Always makes sure rear shoes are well adjusted. Bleed the brakes and put new fluid in, get rid of all air leaks. Then finally a set of braided hoses on the front would give a bit better peddle feel and a firmer stop.

    I would do that before sourcing expensive pads. At least do the things that cost next to nothing, system check....bleed etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisben View Post
    Yes I would deffo check you have no airleaks to servo wise. Always makes sure rear shoes are well adjusted. Bleed the brakes and put new fluid in, get rid of all air leaks.
    +1 to all that!!!
    Then finally a set of braided hoses on the front would give a bit better peddle feel and a firmer stop.
    The only time braided lines give you better pedal feel over new rubber lines is when your fluid is boiling, and that's the fluid's problem, not the brake lines. Braided lines make very little difference over good condition rubber ones, and the majority of the improvement people get when fitting them comes from either fitting new brake lines full stop (be it rubber or braided) by replacing old ones, and/or having new fluid flushed through. Not necessarily anything related to the fact that the lines are braided.

    I would do that before sourcing expensive pads.
    We can get a custom set of higher friction pads, in something like a LTM003 or HPX made for not much more than $100...
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    I'm running the Lucas/TRW pads on my MK1 and they seem fine to me for both street and track.

    Mind you the rest of the system comprises of


    • GTI Ventilated Discs & Audi 80 Calipers up front
    • MK3 Discs at the rear
    • Braided lines all 'round
    • MK3 Booster
    • 22mm Master Cylinder
    • 16v Scirocco Proportioning Valves

    Best thing to do with MK1 brakes is just to replace all the old stuff with new stuff. MK1 brakes were pretty good when the car was brand new. They're not bad by design, they're bad by old age.

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    I got a complete MK2 setup (rotors, calipers, pads etc) from GTI Imports and it was cheep and has seen racetrack time and is great. That is how I would go.
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