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  1. #51
    20v kit car Guest

    hello Hanse ,there is two VWM mk3 golfs and two mk4 tarmac cars..also a mk1 which was developed with factory assistence. other than no17 kit car the second mk3 gti is a new body shell and full components for group a rally.engine is std abf and 02a g/box with VWM LSD center which in it self quite compact....there you have it a new never driven mk3...has std gti running gear and a full SACHS adjustable suspension kit with external resivioirs..the famous mk1 golf is an xfactory car built in australia in 1976 when we had a local plant...golfs were assembled for 1 year in melbourne.this car runs 165hp from 1600 with bmw mechanical pump running from the camshaft sprocket..4 trumpets very close to the fire wall and WOW it barks loud..the cam is Oettinger from many years ago with full bilstien and many choice spring settings.runs hard to about 8000 and sounds like a M3 at full noise. gearbox is a ratio 4sp with a very early style quaife diff center which works your arms..torque steer of the 70's . this vechile run between 76-80 during our famous Bathurst race circut with mixed results...the 4sp really limited the potential as it revved its guts out over 160kmph with 13in wheels on 3 piece bbs with slicks. thanks for your interest and it good to let the world know we may be a long way from anywhere but still have a finger in the golf pie..cheers steve ps what is the name of your buisness and what do you speacialize in ?

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    seat gti motor?

    Hey people, just joined the forum. Have been on the UK Club Gti forum for a few years now, I've learnt heaps from them.
    I have an 89 Gti 16v specially ordered right hand drive in Germany then imported to Australia, so it's the euro spec engine. The car is very quick for the engine being standard. I recorded a 7.5 seconds to 100 on a friends G-tech meter. It's a very smooth motor and while being responsive low down is a little peaky up top. The revs build so quickly when you get about 4.5-5 grand, below that it's pretty similar to an 8v Gti.
    But the time has come for more, and soon I'll be able to tell you if there is much of a difference between KR and ABF engines(in drivability), as I'm doing the swap. I'm keeping the inlet and exhaust manifolds and using the K-Jet injection. According to the Club Gti forum the digifant(digipants) injection on the ABF motors(in seat and mk3 Gti) is a little restrictive, but can be chipped. And when coupled with the K-Jet and making sure the small adjustments on the K-jet system are working properly I should expect closer to 170 horses compared to the 150 std.
    I've had my car RR tested before and got 100hp at the wheels. Will be interesting to see what it gets after as all the parts will still be std. vw stuff.
    My ABF motor has come from a uk mk3 Gti not an aussie seat, cost me $1000 for the motor, gearbox, manifolds, and loom, then a further $1000 for the import.
    I am using a VR6 subframe to drop the motor a little lower as to avoid these bonnet clearance issues(only in a mk2).
    According to both people in the UK and one guy from Tas who was putting an ABF into a mk1 there are no clearance issues, but I don't know this first hand.
    Sorry for the long first post. But hello again.

    mk2 GTi 16v
    Corrado G60

  3. #53
    20v kit car Guest
    welcome ausgolfer to the abf bretheren...very keen to hear how your results turn out....sounds like you are going for smoothness and reliability which makes a lot of sense espeacially with a road car..great to hear there are more people getting invovled with new and fresh ideas cheers steve

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    Yeah we'll see how it goes when it's in. Thanks for the welcome.
    The extra capacity will really help with the low down pull.
    From what I've heard there's not a lot of point changing the cams in a ABF or KR engine, and most that have done so usually end up putting the standard cams back in. Unless you are building a full on race car, the only worthwhile cam mod I've heard on a KR of ABF is the twin exhaust cam mod where you modify a KR or ABF exhaust cam and put it in place of the inlet camshaft (because the exhaust cams are slightly wilder than the inlets).
    Who knows, maybe a supercharger would be next on the agenda. If you put an ABF or KR cylinder head on a 2L 8v engine block(code 2E or ABA in states) you get a compression ratio of around 8 to 1. You need to swap over the oil pump drives and intermediate shafts etc. Also you'd have to get a pocket cut into the pistions for valve clearance. But I'm certainly thinking about it.
    I have an old pair of KR cams sitting in the garage I could do something with. So many bits, not enough money.

    mk2 GTi 16v
    Corrado G60

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    welcome ausgolfer!!! good to see i finally have another melbournian on site...
    VW: it aint just a car, its a way of life
    There are few things more satisfying in life than finding a solution to a problem and implementing it
    My Blog: tinkererstales.blogspot.com.au

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    Welcome ausgolfer, old set of kr cams lying about you say , i've a 1.8 16v PL prefix motor in my mk1 still trying to figure out problems with running the bloody thing but was wondering would you be interested inselling the cams as the motor i've got produces 123 hp and i would like to take that upto the KR stats. If not no stress would love to check out your cars as i'll be in melbourne in october for the weekend and would also like to catch up with some of the other members that live there also. Be good to put some faces to the names that i see in the forum.

    Guys still trying to post pics of the alt bracket some of you asked for in parts for sale. For the new guys i fabricated a bracket for the my 16v from an old one off i think a 1600 and made it fit comfy away from the inlet/m. Got one photo uploaded but can't figure out how to show it in my post so that it's active when you put the mouse over it. Any suggestions?
    And welcome again ausgolfer, the sites word is getting around and it's growing every day which is good to see as i know i've told countless numbers of late mod watercooled owners up here in QLD about the site and look frward to chating with all of them.
    Bye for now

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    go to the user tips mate...

    the site is xs.to and when u upload you go to codes and thumbnails and u grab the forum code from memory... and copy paste onto you post and a thumbnail loads up.
    simple
    VW: it aint just a car, its a way of life
    There are few things more satisfying in life than finding a solution to a problem and implementing it
    My Blog: tinkererstales.blogspot.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20v kit car
    what is the name of your buisness and what do you speacialize in ?
    Hello Steve, as my username suggests, we are Van Kronenburg situated in Geldrop. We specialise in Volkswagen group, BMW and Opel race car and motor preparation. You may browse our website, which is www.vankronenburg.nl and is in English!

    Thanks! Hanse

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