No wash or wipe

[007]

I think an auto sparks is the right thing to be doing next. Try and find one that knows something about the cars. I went to 2 who all did a temporary fix before I found a bloke who knew something about european cars. It could be the ignition switch and that should be easy to isolate, but I think the car is a bit young for that. The issue with the fuse and relay panel is that one of the tracks (on the inside of the sandwich and to which some key relays/fuses connect) lifts through age and/or heat and so the connection drops out, making it look for all the world like a fuse or relay has gone. But if you check your book you'll see that the fan/wipers/heated rear window are on different fuses and relays which suggests something else. The fuse on your radiator fan could also be a clue. That was something else that went on mine before I replaced the panel. For safety's sake I got them to wire it up outside of the panel so if I get the same problem again, I won't be at risk of cooking the motor. Good Luck with it!

[cab93]

Thanks Mario,

Closer inspection today, revealed the lower retaining screw had worked loose. Allowing the top left fuse board come loose from it's mounting. I guess this movement has damaged the board. Some of the top row of relays had come loose 3-4mm.

My plan is to order a new fuse box, and have a electrician install it for me. This will hopefully restore all functions. Or at least rule this area out as faulty.

Good tip about using relay 19. Ive also heard the horn relay will work in the fuel pump slot as well (however this will not switch off in the event of accident).

Michael

[cab93]

I think an auto sparks is the right thing to be doing next. Try and find one that knows something about the cars. I went to 2 who all did a temporary fix before I found a bloke who knew something about european cars. It could be the ignition switch and that should be easy to isolate, but I think the car is a bit young for that. The issue with the fuse and relay panel is that one of the tracks (on the inside of the sandwich and to which some key relays/fuses connect) lifts through age and/or heat and so the connection drops out, making it look for all the world like a fuse or relay has gone. But if you check your book you'll see that the fan/wipers/heated rear window are on different fuses and relays which suggests something else. The fuse on your radiator fan could also be a clue. That was something else that went on mine before I replaced the panel. For safety's sake I got them to wire it up outside of the panel so if I get the same problem again, I won't be at risk of cooking the motor. Good Luck with it!

Head lights no longer work also. Fuse box is about $95u.s and it doesn't look too involved to replace. I prefer some else do this in case of shorts or fire! If it is not the board I'm sure I can sell it on. As it was loose, this is the only part that I can workout that may have sustain damaged. Ignition switch and starting seem fine.

In a week or so, I guess I will have my answer. and bill $$$

Michael

[AUC-05L]

Head lights no longer work also. Fuse box is about $95u.s and it doesn't look too involved to replace. I prefer some else do this in case of shorts or fire! If it is not the board I'm sure I can sell it on. As it was loose, this is the only part that I can workout that may have sustain damaged. Ignition switch and starting seem fine.

In a week or so, I guess I will have my answer. and bill $$$

Michael

my ignition was fine as well. the only thing the car did was start. good luck with it. let us know what the culprit was.

cheers

[cab93]

my ignition was fine as well. the only thing the car did was start. good luck with it. let us know what the culprit was.

cheers

I ordered the fuse box yesterday from GAP. At least I will have the part if required. Yes it will be interesting to find out whats gone wrong, It's like the car has had a mini stroke will half of its functions no longer working.

Will post up the cause and cost - relays and labour are not cheap!

Michael

[007]

I ordered the fuse box yesterday from GAP. At least I will have the part if required. Yes it will be interesting to find out whats gone wrong, It's like the car has had a mini stroke will half of its functions no longer working.

Will post up the cause and cost - relays and labour are not cheap!

Michael

Labour costs for mine was about $160 from memory. It didn't need anything else. all the relays were still good - they just swapped them all over. I paid a bit extra to get the radiator fan wired outside of the ignition - but less than $200 overall. I think they were glad to see the back of it though - no fun working in that tiny space!

[cab93]

i had the exact same problem when i first got the golf. no wipers, heater fan etc, it was the ignition switch. i also though it was a relay/fuse at first so replaced them, but the problem was still there.... its the ignition switch.

.....The ignition switch!

No power was finding it's way to the fuse/relay box for certain items. A second hand part for $60.00 will be fitted tomorrow. Hopefully this will banish all electrical demons from the car.

Michael

[AUC-05L]

.....The ignition switch!

No power was finding it's way to the fuse/relay box for certain items. A second hand part for $60.00 will be fitted tomorrow. Hopefully this will banish all electrical demons from the car.

Michael

i hate to say i told you so.......lol. $60!!! mine cost me $28 new, from a VW shop.....

[roccodingo]

$60 for an ignition switch ??? hope that came with labour to install it.

$8 from GAP...

good to hear that it works tho.. been going through the wiring on my 93 but now sorted, dead immobiliser remotes..

[cab93]

$60 for an ignition switch ??? hope that came with labour to install it.

No.....$160.00 all up.....The switch they ordered was incorrect....They soldered the inoperative powered pin to the main powered pin......Is this o.k.?????
For $8.00 I think I will replace it with a new part (Now I know where the problem lies). However that's not the worst part......

1. At the time I went to collect the car, the keys could not be found. where would they be? In the car of course, parked in a public access road with the drivers window down. But that's not the worst part.


2. The speaker cover in the drivers door is now cracked, and the plastic mesh pushed in. However I can repair this.(It's happen before-when exiting the car it's very easy to kick it with you foot)But that's not the worst part.

3. As they kept the car overnight I think the car was parked under another vehicle on a hoist. As some oily fluid has leaked on to my bonnet. This has been covered by the dust from the major road repairs outside the repair shop. I'm sure someone had the best intention.....to wipe the oil up with a dirty dry rag mixed with the dust, while using a circular motion to create the largest swirl marks and scratches ever seen

4. Worst part? I have only just noticed.....Didn't check the car when I left.

Michael