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    Quote Originally Posted by finemk1
    but then i noticed the starter motor getting fairly hot..
    Under normal cranking it shouldn't get hot. If you crank it for >20 sec then you'll feel a rise in temp on the armature casing. A hot starter usually indicates high resistance and this can be caused by a number of things. Starter motors ain't rocket science so pull it off and take it to bits. First check that all resistances are within specs (you'll need a multimeter and a good workshop manual) and if they are, clean the commutator with fine wet and dry. Hopefully it isn't too eroded which case it will have to be skimmed. Check the commutator for arcing between the segments and if there are traces of copper use a scriber to get rid of them. Look at the bushes (especially the bush at the pinion end) and if there's play replace them. Obviously if the brushes are sticking or worn replace them.

    does any body know what charge the alternator should be putting out for a KR donk?
    Should be between 13.5 and 14v. Just put the multimeter probes on the + and - terminals on the battery and rev up to about 2000

    damn bat mobile wont even start...ill have to run!!

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    Mate, put a fat earth wire from the earth terminal on the battery to the bolt that holds the starter in. An extra earth is ok. It will then make a good circuit and should crank faster.

    If its still not cranking fast enough, take out one spark plug and try it with just 3. I have started many a reluctant motor this way. Once it fires first time, stick the plug back in and you are done.

    Let us know how it goes boy wonder
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    i had a problem like this with my 16v, very hard to turn over.

    get the earths sorted

    i would check to see if you can turn the motor over by hand. if its to hard, take the spark plugs out and turn by hand. if its still hard to turn over, check that the caps holding the camshafts are done to the right torque. (just an idea - i am sure this is what was holding mine up)- be careful not to break the cap studs.

    if that doesnt seem to be the problem, check your ignition timing. it maybe to advanced for cranking? take the sparkplug leads off and crank it.

    just my 2c worth

    cheers

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    ok found another problem, no spark!! hahahaha yesterday i had spark but not today.....i traced back to the starter coil, its an old oil one and looks like a POS so decided to get a new one, , looked at the bosch gt40rt, but apperently these are no good for the KR using electronic ignition setup,
    screw this!! basically i want a new starter coil and cant find one, what are you guys using in your 16v's?? i am using an ignition module to
    im guessing i could use a mk3 coil or similar

    oh and is there an easy replacement KR distributer, ive seen some neat ones going around where the lead plugs are on top not the side, ,any body know of these cuz mine is old and crook and probably part of the problem

    guide me people please......

    here are some pics, engine bay is practically at the finished stage and ive found my brake problem!! its the fluid tank, its just crap and old and leaks air but perfect design cuz its off centred on the list to replace. my alternator sits funny cuz my bracket welding is crook and not straight, will have to have another crack at that too.

    this weekend folks, or im not going back to work untill im driving my golf



    Last edited by finemk1; 15-09-2006 at 07:14 PM.
    the golf is not dead.

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    Looking good bro, wont be long now.

    Coil is same as 8v GTi one.

    Those dissy caps are for the Mk3 GTI 16v or cuprasport Ibiza.

    Glad your brake booster is ok.

    Keep us posted
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    hahaha thats your brake booster .. ill put mine back on and give yours back sometime in the distant future
    i mean the MC bit
    the golf is not dead.

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    hahahahahahhaha its going folks just thought id tell you hehehehehehehe hahahahahahah hehehehehehe waahahaha

    man it sound sweet, bit lumpy and inconsistant but its a new donk!!!!

    now ill book her in for a tune and still gotta bleed the brakes.....

    oh did i say its going hahahahahaa hehehehehehe waaahahaaa hehehehe now i got all day to clean her up and detail her

    BYE
    Last edited by finemk1; 17-09-2006 at 12:41 PM.
    the golf is not dead.

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    Good Work Al, clearly you fond a coil.
    Fancy a drive to Sydney for a cruise with us all next Sunday?
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    haha yeah wasnt the coil i tested it with a multi and all the numbers seemed roughly correct so i pulled my dizzy apart and it nearly made me sick as to the state it was in, cleaned it and rewired 2 of the 3 broken wires...... and i installed kenworth truck cables thicker than my thumb as my new earth leads and one to the starter bolt like you said new battery terminals and it was crazy fast cranking and started 1st go, ive got the software for microtech to get it running better but is tricky the only bit i was brave to do was the ignition timing.. so i think its wise letting the pro's do the tuning, i can learn how to tune on another engine as i want this motor to actually survive hahahaha

    its scary cuz i have been going over the car a few times to see if ive forgotton something befor i hit the tune shop, and i hadnt put my rear engine mount bolts (chassis side) on and tightened my bottom strut brace bolts either..... damn but all is ok now just drove it out of the garage!!!! ready for tomorrow, work can wait
    thanks all for your help. bitchasssss

    depend on when i can it it in the tune shop lune i will definatly be there with bells on
    the golf is not dead.

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    need to fix a few things like door pin strip, and paint hahaha, my gears!! cuz 1st is reverse position, 3rd is 1st and 5th is 3rd, and my motor seems to be on a bit of a lean which is not good as the gearbox is hitting the bottom strut brace, so ill be fixing a lot of things tomoz, but hopefully evrey thing is ready for this cruize on the weekend, be a good time to run it in..


    this is my remidy for taking out the rain tray, will get fresh air and not the smoky engine fumes, yet to screw it together and seal it off, should be buet


    previous leaking air sensor.. not any more


    fuel rail


    looks like a track basher cuz of my past neglect which i sorta regret now it was mint when i got it
    Last edited by finemk1; 17-09-2006 at 08:25 PM.
    the golf is not dead.

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