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Thread: Misfiring weber conversion

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    black betty Guest

    Misfiring weber conversion

    have just swapped the old single choke vw carby for a twin choke weber DGR 32

    engine is a 1991 1800 from mk 2 gti

    before the swap the car ran well

    now it misfires slightly on tickover

    also it appears to misfire fairly badly under acceleration (partial or full throttle)

    it also "runs on" for a few seconds when you switch the ignition off after a journey

    when i did the swap i used a new carb to manifold mounting gasket/ plate

    there does not appear to be an air leak- i have sprayed carby cleaner around the mounting when the car is running to see if any change in revs (from an air leak)

    as such i think that the ignition timing is out and wonder if anyone can please answer the following for me:-

    1.is the ignition too far advanced or retarded?
    2. which way would i have to twist the distributor to adjust this (i.e. clockwise or anti-clockwise?)

    any assistance greatfully appreciated

    bb

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    Golfwise Guest

    misfire

    If it was running ok before the you changed the carby don't confuse matters by changing the timing or anything else.Concentrate on the carby .
    Anticlockwise for advance, opposite to retard .

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    black betty Guest
    thanks golfwise

    sorry should have said- i paid someone to 'service' it after i had put carby on

    they 'played' with the ignition timing to no avail

    think i want to try and sort it myself and not spend more money on it

    as such do you think they might have advanced the timing??

    also when you say concentrate on the carby- could that make it misfire and run on etc i.e. jet sizes

    sorry i do not have a lot of experience with carbs

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    syncro Guest
    What is the distributor out of?
    What was the original carby out of?

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    Carbies are dirty untuneable things. Bite the bullet and go for injection and you wont regret it. I did and am soooo happy with it.

    Or take it to a VW place (There are two in Canberra that are good) or a carby place and have them check it out. But unless the carb has been set up for your application then it will use too much juice and run like a dog. If your lucky it will go a lot louder but not any faster and you also heat up your exhaust by putting too much fuel through the engine so the unburnt stuff gets burnt in the exhaust.
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    Anonymous Guest
    syncro-

    the carb is twin choke from a gemini (similar engine cc's i believe)

    i think the innards (chokes?) are 26 and 28

    i think the distributor is from a mk 2 gti in that it has the vacuum advance thingmo on the side of it (which i have connected to the carburettor by a vacuum line)

    gotrice- the car is really just a toy and i wanted to get a bit more fueling than the single choke without spending too much $$$ so unfortunately fuel injection is a no goer for this project- but in an ideal world.....

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    syncro Guest
    Distributors from digifant engines do not have mechanical advance. May be worth looking into????

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    Anonymous Guest
    Mate ive had the same problems before.
    Im not expert but for me it was the set points. I replaced them and they were fine.
    I dont nkow about u guys but i reckon carbys sound mad, esp webers. Got to love them for that

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    Anonymous Guest
    okay heres an update- i gradually adjusted the ignition timing by turning the dissy clockwise and retarding it

    each time i took it for a drive

    i have got to the stage now where:-

    -misfiring at idle is gone
    -misfiring under load has pretty much gone
    -generally runs quite well

    however it is still not the ball of fire i might hope it would be!

    at least i know it seems to/ will run reasonably well so i am going to book it in for some rejetting at a dyno on monday or tuesday

    a couple more questions:-

    1. should the carby hiss continually until you really put your foot down?
    (i.e. when only the first butterfly is open)
    2. how much should i expect to pay for a quick set up and some jetting on a dyno??

    thank to all of you for your help so far

    bb

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    I`d be taking the carby off and to pieces blow it through with air, then it should work better. Just had the Mk2 carby on and off 3 times. its right now.

    At least you know the points and timing are ok.

    Did you make an adaptor plate to fit that carby? or modify the inlet manifold?

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