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Thread: Brakes! - Another holiday job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valver. View Post
    That price is crazy!! I have a few more sets somemore - I'll have a look in the shed
    Much appreciated.

    Just for the sake of clarity - here's the plan.

    Red Golf - This week

    Front
    Std new solid discs up front
    ATE Single spot Calipers

    Rear
    1997 Seat Cordoba Drums

    Master
    22mm 16v master cylinder
    MKIII Booster

    White Golf - Sometime soon

    Front
    MKI GTI Vented Rotors Done
    MKI GTI Calipers Done

    Rear
    Std rear drums at the moment
    1997 Seat Toledo Solid Discs Ready to fit
    1997 Seat Toledo Lucas Calipers Waiting on pads - this week.
    Scirocco handbrake cables.Ready to fit

    Master
    Some sort of proportioning valve(s) To be sourced
    Stock MK1 Master/booster for the moment - then upgrade to
    -22mm 16v master cylinder To be sourced
    -MKII/III Booster To be sourced


    White gets the higher performance kit generally speaking. It came with a MKII GTI K-Jetronic 1800 with cam, extractors etc BUT the standard diesel brakes! (Both my Golfs were GLDs originally). White also has the tall ratio 5 speed which can make cornering difficult. I'll explain. The cam in this car is probably a bit much for this gear ratio there's not enough torque down low to pull out of the corners in second gear, you just don't have enough revs on board unless your entry speed is 60km/h or higher. I'm working on it by adding sway bars to get closer to those entry speeds and trying to see if I can regain some torque through tuning, I suspect it's there to be had. I have no idea what the cam is in the car but it's quite happy to see 90km/h in 2nd . It's still quite drivable you just can't plant the foot and pull the sort of G forces out of the bend that I'd like to and I know the car is capable of.

    I was going to sell Red at one stage but changed my mind and it's aging 1600 got replaced with an 1800 '97 Cordoba (MKIII) motor. Red's brakes are on their last legs. There's no boost, and the discs are scored beyond machining. The calipers are the oldest and worst type. The drums seem OK but I've never looked in there to see.

    The Cordoba motor is great and gets Red up to speed quicker than the brakes can stop it , hence the priority in sorting out the brakes before I upgrade whites system.

    Once Red is sorted we can sell Blue, an aging E30 318is BMW which is an on-going unreliable money pit. With both the Red and White Golfs on the road I'll be able to spend a bit more time on the project '59 beetle (which is also blue).

    Once the beetle is on the road maybe I'll get my CAMS license again and punt these things around a track or two. It's been a long time since I've had the opportunity to indulge in motorsport.

    Pete
    Last edited by Peter Jones; 06-01-2008 at 07:36 AM. Reason: formatting

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    If yor chasing more bottom end response, a good way to improve torque & performance is to fit a volvo 240 fuel distributor head, airflow sensor flap & an Audi throttle body (match ported to the intake)

    These mod's will make a world of difference to your Golf. The bottom end response is awesome. Doesn't make a half bad induction noise either. Along the line's of a weber!

    The good thing is that it's all bolt on & you can't tell any difference's by looking at it as it's all bosch component's. You don't even have to modify the airbox.

    The problem with the standard proportionng valve is you can't get enough out of them in a mk1. There designed for a totally different car, weight etc.
    I couldn't get bugger all out of the standard mk1 gti either.

    Also, the universal ones mean you'll have to plumb both of the rear brake lines into one line for the valve to control it.

    Just out of interest, you can still get the valve's from VW at a cost.
    Bit over the top at $155.00 each!

    With any second hand's ones you should open them up, clean them & free up the spring's, cups etc. They can jam when sitting for long periods of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfworx View Post
    If yor chasing more bottom end response, a good way to improve torque & performance is to fit a volvo 240 fuel distributor head, airflow sensor flap & an Audi throttle body (match ported to the intake)
    Dito thats

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