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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Jones View Post
    There is no starter relay.

    The Starter solenoid is fed directly from the ignition switch.

    What's the problem?
    Im guessing cause he had a GLD, it still has the GLD wiring, and from what ive seen, the starter wire is spilt near the fusebox and goes into the glowplug relay.

    In a petrol wiring loom, it goes from ignition switch into fusebox, then from fusebox to starter.
    I dunno if it makes a difference though, it should start wind over

    Also, got a positve wire for the coil? pinch it from L15 i think it is on front of the fusebox, its a fused one. Works fine. both my cars where GLD,
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    Should still work though.

    Either way ignition switch loom hit the fuse box on E17.

    On the GLD the solenoid is fed from C10 on the Petrol A10 both of these are commoned up internally .

    Power Flow should work like this.

    Terminal 30 of Ignition switch is connected to battery, should read 12v permanently.
    Terminal 50 of Ignition switch should connect to battery when the key is in the start position.

    Terminal 50 has a large red wire with a black trace going to connector E pin 17 at the rear of the fusebox. (E17)

    E17 is connected internally in the fuse box to A10 (or perhaps C10)

    From there it's another Red/black wire to the solenoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRN_VAGN View Post
    Im guessing cause he had a GLD, it still has the GLD wiring, and from what ive seen, the starter wire is spilt near the fusebox and goes into the glowplug relay.

    In a petrol wiring loom, it goes from ignition switch into fusebox, then from fusebox to starter.
    I dunno if it makes a difference though, it should start wind over



    Also, got a positve wire for the coil? pinch it from L15 i think it is on front of the fusebox, its a fused one. Works fine. both my cars where GLD,
    Do you have wiring schematics for a '81 GLD? I'll explain the situation better when I get home later on, for now
    I need to try track down the schematics.
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    Buy yourself a Bentley Mk1 Golf manual. They're not cheap but they're money WELL spent it my opinion. I also have a Haynes Mk1 golf Diesel manual which is pretty handy but you shouldn't really need that.

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    Preen; last night I brought the 1.6 manual and and the Deisel manual by Haynes. Should help! I need the Deisel one more than anything so I can put in a starter relay using the loom I've got in the car. Since it appears the existing loom is in there and modified.
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    some peeps fit a relay in the starter circuit to reduce the current load going thru the Ign switch. Myself have never had a problem with the factory set up in 33 years of driving Mk1's.

    Wiring these cars is pretty basic, with the correct manual you should be able to nut it out.
    Lots of MK 1 Scirocco's...

    If it aint a MK 1 then it must be a donor car ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by roccodingo View Post
    some peeps fit a relay in the starter circuit to reduce the current load going thru the Ign switch. Myself have never had a problem with the factory set up in 33 years of driving Mk1's.

    Wiring these cars is pretty basic, with the correct manual you should be able to nut it out.
    Well as said above, it was originally a Diesel, and has been converted to the 1.6l petrol. They've used the diesels loom and whatnot and just modified it where need be. They still have live power running through the socket for the glow plug relay, and im not sure where the power was coming from originally for the starter, but the cable seemed way to thick. I think it's fried something along the line. So, just to do it right, and eliminate any possible problems, i'll put in a relay.

    When my Haynes manual arrives, it will be wired correctly, I hate half done jobs, there are wires everywhere it's a total mess. Half arsed job whoever did it! Oh well. Will all be good soon enough.
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