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    TSI turned 20,000km.........Like/Dislikes

    Mind has recently turned 25k and am more than happy with it, had the rattle prob in the beginning but other than a few minor issues, have nothing but praise for my little car. I hope it continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomadx38 View Post
    Last time I checked the Dusuki Swift Sport was rated at 8.6secs to 100. This poops all over the TSI's 9.7 but the TSI does appear faster...no idea why?
    I think the reality is they are a lot closer together than that. VW seem to rate their cars very conservatively. Wheels Magazine tested a stock 6 speed manual 77TSI Comfortline (November 2011 edition) and achieved 8.8 seconds 0 - 100 and 16.4 seconds standing quarter (this would be two-up with 95 unleaded). Motor Magazine tested the Swift Sport (September 2012 edition) and got 8.5 seconds 0 - 100 and 16.1 seconds standing quarter. So about 0.3 seconds in it. Pretty close all things considered, especially considering the on-paper specs of the Swift are significantly superior and the latest version of the Swift Sport engine gives much better torque than earlier versions did.

    Wheels also describe the 77TSI as a "sub-GTI" if optioned with the Sports Pack. Although I cannot find test data from both magazines testing both cars, these two magazines have traditionally either been very close together in test results or Motor Magazine has produced better results. The tests I have found that do overlap both magazines tends to suggest that both the sets of times I have quoted above are valid.

    If you then take into account aftermarket tuning for both cars it is likely the 77TSI would make up this 0.3 second deficit and perhaps even surpass the Swift, given that amongst other things, the turbo in stock form is running at less than it's normal intended design specification (it is designed to run high 7 psi figures but it only runs at 6 psi in the stock 77TSI).

    Finally, if you then took into account factors such as refinement, manual gearbox feel (I have never come across a manual gearbox anywhere remotely as nice as the one in the Polo), ride quality, interior fit and finish, etc, then I think the Polo 77TSI Sports Pack makes a pretty good case for itself against a Swift Sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonP01 View Post
    I think the reality is they are a lot closer together than that. VW seem to rate their cars very conservatively. Wheels Magazine tested a stock 6 speed manual 77TSI Comfortline (November 2011 edition) and achieved 8.8 seconds 0 - 100 and 16.4 seconds standing quarter (this would be two-up with 95 unleaded). Motor Magazine tested the Swift Sport (September 2012 edition) and got 8.5 seconds 0 - 100 and 16.1 seconds standing quarter. So about 0.3 seconds in it. Pretty close all things considered, especially considering the on-paper specs of the Swift are significantly superior and the latest version of the Swift Sport engine gives much better torque than earlier versions did.

    Wheels also describe the 77TSI as a "sub-GTI" if optioned with the Sports Pack. Although I cannot find test data from both magazines testing both cars, these two magazines have traditionally either been very close together in test results or Motor Magazine has produced better results. The tests I have found that do overlap both magazines tends to suggest that both the sets of times I have quoted above are valid.

    If you then take into account aftermarket tuning for both cars it is likely the 77TSI would make up this 0.3 second deficit and perhaps even surpass the Swift, given that amongst other things, the turbo in stock form is running at less than it's normal intended design specification (it is designed to run high 7 psi figures but it only runs at 6 psi in the stock 77TSI).

    Finally, if you then took into account factors such as refinement, manual gearbox feel (I have never come across a manual gearbox anywhere remotely as nice as the one in the Polo), ride quality, interior fit and finish, etc, then I think the Polo 77TSI Sports Pack makes a pretty good case for itself against a Swift Sport.
    Couldn't agree more. I was thinking of a Swift Sport before I bought the Polo, but the ride quality, design, exterior quality, interior quality and overall fit and finish of the Polo was light years ahead of the Swift (and anything else in the class, or even the class above). There's a reason the Polo 77TSI wins just about every small car award and is recommended by almost all car reviewers for someone looking for a small car.
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    Previously: MY12 Polo 77TSI
    In The Family: MY15 Golf 103TSI Highline & MY15 Audi RS3

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    50,442 kms done so far since july 2011. I am loving this car. My first brand spanking new car.

    Issues -
    From the beginning it has had a slight squeal at various times coming from the front right brake area when turned round corners. (the other day it was a constant high pitch squeal from home to work (13km), thought i was going to have to take it in. I parked it near my work and when I went to drive it again (i reveresed from a 45 degree angle park with a bit of a decline and it sounded like something flicked from the brake area and the noise was gone???
    There was a slight rattle near the seat belt area on the driver side of the car
    I am hating the condition of the roads in Australia - even driving on the freeway where it is suppose to be smooth they have a slight lip, travelling at 110km per hour makes that little lip feel like a frigging speed hump!!! not cool especially with the low profile tyres.


    Positives-
    Many
    Many
    Many
    Love the fuel economy
    Love the handling
    Love the quietness of the cabin.
    Love the quality of the polo.
    Anyone else done as many kms as I have??
    My car: 2011 77TSi polo 1.2T Flash Red Manual Comfort Pack Sports Pack Black FLoor Mats Load Sill Film
    Date Ordered 14 Feb 2011 picked up 20th July Supplying Dealer South Yarra Volkswagen
    Wifes car: mazda 2 2008. Soon to be Golf 90 Tsi Comfortline 6spd Manual pure white

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    TSI turned 20,000km.........Like/Dislikes

    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy629 View Post
    Anyone else done as many kms as I have??
    Yep. 63,715 km since August 2011.

    Issues: Some rats decided to eat some vacuum hoses and diesel from Woolworths/Caltex is rubbish and blocks the DPF all the time.

    Positives: It's not a DSG It uses almost no fuel and it's good looking and fun.
    Last edited by alexaescht; 28-04-2013 at 11:27 AM.
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    you 77 guys have some of the oddest signatures I've seen (like the boot tub in your mothers car, you have a stubby antenna, that you might buy new brake pads).

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    Quote Originally Posted by noone View Post
    you 77 guys have some of the oddest signatures I've seen (like the boot tub in your mothers car, you have a stubby antenna, that you might buy new brake pads).
    quality lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy629 View Post
    50,442 kms done so far since july 2011. I am loving this car. My first brand spanking new car.

    Issues -
    From the beginning it has had a slight squeal at various times coming from the front right brake area when turned round corners. (the other day it was a constant high pitch squeal from home to work (13km), thought i was going to have to take it in. I parked it near my work and when I went to drive it again (i reveresed from a 45 degree angle park with a bit of a decline and it sounded like something flicked from the brake area and the noise was gone???
    There was a slight rattle near the seat belt area on the driver side of the car
    I am hating the condition of the roads in Australia - even driving on the freeway where it is suppose to be smooth they have a slight lip, travelling at 110km per hour makes that little lip feel like a frigging speed hump!!! not cool especially with the low profile tyres.


    Positives-
    Many
    Many
    Many
    Love the fuel economy
    Love the handling
    Love the quietness of the cabin.
    Love the quality of the polo.
    Anyone else done as many kms as I have??
    I hear you! Man, that 'lowered suspension' plus the low profile tyres that come with the Sports Pack really makes you feel those bumps! I was on the Hume Hwy just today and those joins in the asphalt at 110kms certainly do feel like speed bumps!
    MY16 Golf GTI Performance Pack

    Previously: MY12 Polo 77TSI
    In The Family: MY15 Golf 103TSI Highline & MY15 Audi RS3

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