Polo GTi Future and Reliability

[Coolio]

Gti Joe I am 21 and single and ordered a 5 door...does this contribute to lowering the family guy average?!

Thanks also for the review...i think i google VW Polo GTI at least 5 times per day and the same old stories have been popping up for a long time now!

I have an ETA of Jan 2012 and am also concerned by the rumours about the twincharged 1.4 setup being phased out...i was pretty excited by the prospect of such an accessible car having such a high level of technology, especially with the 7 speed dsg. But there are two things i think are worthwhile pointing out. I read both Wheels and Motor every month and neither magazine has mentioned anything along these lines. They have always been pretty reliable with information like this in the past. Secondly, VW are hardly going to replace the current setup with something inferior. I guess we are in a win-win situation...if they don't change it...awesome! If they do...awesome, we have a new engine!

[Reckless_Engineer]

mr_bsr you landed on my thoughts exactly. I am set for an early 2012 delivery, if you can believe the dealers.

[mr_bzr]

Perhaps thats why after 2 months of placing an order I have yet to receive an order number, or anything on NADCON. Perhaps they don't even know what the next polo will be and are just taking orders anyway??

CONSPIRACY!?

By the way GTI Joe I am 22, single and got the 5 door. The extra 2 doors are ... quite practical although I must say I do like the look of a 3 door one better.

[GTI JOE]

Gti Joe I am 21 and single and ordered a 5 door...does this contribute to lowering the family guy average?!

Thanks also for the review...i think i google VW Polo GTI at least 5 times per day and the same old stories have been popping up for a long time now!

I have an ETA of Jan 2012 and am also concerned by the rumours about the twincharged 1.4 setup being phased out...i was pretty excited by the prospect of such an accessible car having such a high level of technology, especially with the 7 speed dsg. But there are two things i think are worthwhile pointing out. I read both Wheels and Motor every month and neither magazine has mentioned anything along these lines. They have always been pretty reliable with information like this in the past. Secondly, VW are hardly going to replace the current setup with something inferior. I guess we are in a win-win situation...if they don't change it...awesome! If they do...awesome, we have a new engine!

That's exactly right Coolio, you will get a quality product either way. I cannot see VW phasing the current engine out in the short term as it's very popular and is fitted to other VW brands such as Skoda etc. Also, nice to see so many "new aged guys" out there as well Yes, it's a matter of practicality vs looks IMO. My wife wanted the 5dr just for that reason, however, she has her own car, so I won

[Reckless_Engineer]

im early 20's and went for the 4 door. I have lived with a 2door golf and i'm a bit over it I do agree the 2 door looks way better

As for the engine debate, i know they wouldn't do a half arsed job with a new single turbo engine. My concern is getting a car with an engine i have not test driven or the associated deprecation of a new car when its freshly superseded.

[Coolio]

I guess that's where it becomes six of one and half a dozen of the other. Say you received your car first quarter 2012 and the twin charged setup was replaced with a single turbo 1.4 mid year, resale of twincharged 1.4 cars may take a hit in the immediate timeframe following the introduction of the new engine. In 3+ years time it shouldn't make much difference though. What it may mean is that the odd person selling their 1,500km old 1.4 twincharged engine might get 28k instead of the seemingly unrealistic prices they are being advertised for now (including dealer demos and whatnot). But three years down the track, a twincharged 1.4 may have additional resale value over an equivalent single turbo unit, given how excited people seem to be by the technology. And like you say, you know the engine isn't going to be worse, so not having test driven it shouldn't be tooooo much of a concern. That's how i am trying to look at it anyway.

[kaanage]

I serious doubt VW will abandon the twin charge engine within the lifetime of the 6R Polo - this includes any mid-life cosmetic update. What I do doubt is whether they will develop it further than it already has been or continue to use it when the next round of platforms is introduced.

Since the 6R platform is relatively new, I wouldn't worry about depreciation - the normal age based and platform based depreciation will far outweigh any shift in engine technology.

The 6R Polo that I would be worried about is the TDi - I can see a major engine revision taking place in the not too distant future because of the poor DPF implementation and its ensuing consequences on performance, economy and drivability.

[pologti18t]

Who said VW would replace the 1.4 twincharger with a 1.4 turbo? The basic engine hiding under the twincharger mechanism is a fairly old design. There is every chance that VW could replace it (the high performance version) with a brand new design 1.6L twin scroll turbo.

[Coolio]

Who said VW would replace the 1.4 twincharger with a 1.4 turbo? The basic engine hiding under the twincharger mechanism is a fairly old design. There is every chance that VW could replace it (the high performance version) with a brand new design 1.6L twin scroll turbo.

No one as far as i know, my comment about that was just for example only. That could be written as an x.xL engine of any aspiration type. I was talking more about the affect of an engine change from the 1.4 twincharger to whatever vw deems appropriate on resale values, and given they are likely to be roughly equivalent in terms of power and consumption i don't see any real downsides either way.

[pologti18t]

No one as far as i know, my comment about that was just for example only. That could be written as an x.xL engine of any aspiration type. I was talking more about the affect of an engine change from the 1.4 twincharger to whatever vw deems appropriate on resale values, and given they are likely to be roughly equivalent in terms of power and consumption i don't see any real downsides either way.

You would expect a major drivetrain change to coincide with a facelift etc.