Newbie Post - 6R Information

[Hail22]

I feel as if I may have to start a new thread, but how does an 09-10 Golf GTI fair in comparison?

I have a 2010 MK6 GTI Tornado red 3 door...never been happier with my weekend car only had the water pump changed under warranty due to a breakage in the pump cylinder. 40,000kms and still going strong! The only thing the Mk6 DSG hates is high traffic, it won't cause you any mechanical issues it just clunks and jerks a lot in the stop / start traffic.

[mpfourfour]

Forgive the terrible question, but being in a couple of 'DSG' golfs, they seem to behave exactly like standard autos when left in D? I have never been in a DSG GTI Golf or Polo though.

[Hail22]

Forgive the terrible question, but being in a couple of 'DSG' golfs, they seem to behave exactly like standard autos when left in D? I have never been in a DSG GTI Golf or Polo though.

I don't feel when driving in D its like a standard auto...then again I've never driven a TSI Golf or TDI Golf with a DSG box.

[bushman]

The polo 77TSI with manual gearbox is the way to go.
Still has a lot of poke as torque is quite low down.
Sportpac recommended.
Very reliable car and unless you really race hard is as quicker than many bigger cars

[nomadx38]

Ok I think we need to clear some things up here.

First - two versions (to keep it simple) of the DSG exist. A 6sp "wet" clutch and a 7sp "dry" clutch. As implied one has oil cooling the clutches one doesn't, meaning the 6sp is generally more reliable and can handle more stress.

Also the 6sp is much smoother and more consistent in its operation (but this also has to do with design which I will not go into) - this is what gives it the more traditional auto feel, as you can actually creep with it.

Becuase the 6sp has oil surrounding the clutches it has so be replaced every 45,000 as contaminants affect it. This is the added cost of the 6sp and yes it is about 1000-1500$.

You then have a 7sp which has none of these costs and is "sealed" for life. Problem is the 7sp is very prone to chew through clutches every 30-50,000km and at $2000 for a clutch its about the same price at the end. VW says the 7sp can do 150,000km on a clutch but in yet to see one that has had a faultless 100,000km.

On the other hand I know lots of people who have the 6sp an gotten 200,000+ km out of them and they are still running better than my 7sp.

6sp DSG's were in the MK5 Golf (all DSG models), and the GTI, R and TDI of the MK6/7

7sp DSG's make up the remainder of the Golf TSI's and entire Polo range.

Personally I would have another DSG, they are great boxes - BUT I would never have a dry clutch again. Save yourself a lot of hassle, anxiety and pain and get the 6sp wet clutch for gods sake - which means the Golf GTI...or get a manual