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[gavs]

After having the ventilation pipe changed to reduce oil consumption, I have noticed on cold starts, the engine is very rough and shakes quite a bit. This never happened before I had the pipe installed. Is this related or just a coincidence and I have more issues on my hands?

The Polo is going in for repairs on the 21st so I may as well find out all the issues before it goes in.

They do a software update as well as the pipe if they do the job properly....

[amazeer]

watching megafactory. Veyron at wide open throttle = 3mpg. Range = 12 minutes. Staggering. What I dont understand is how Volkswagen can build a DSG gearbox that can reliably handle 1000hp but they cant build one that can reliably handle 100hp.

[alexaescht]

watching megafactory. Veyron at wide open throttle = 3mpg. Range = 12 minutes. Staggering. What I dont understand is how Volkswagen can build a DSG gearbox that can reliably handle 1000hp but they cant build one that can reliably handle 100hp.

Even 1200 bhp in the SuperSport!

The gearbox is built by a different company than the normal DSG's and I'm sure is much much much more expensive.
And it's wet-clutch. They tend to have fewer issues than the dry-clutched ones in the Polo.

[kevinctr]

Fly wheel is separate on the DSG, the drive plate between the clutches is the part that causes the shuddering.

For a conventional manual that might be true but you are more likley to get more clutch slip with less aggressive driving becuase the DSG works the opposite way to a manual. The pressure plate pulls the clutch off the drive plate, not pushing it on.

Any photos to illustrate? The clutch set is replaced as whole assembly, what items are in this set? I am going back to ask for replacement under warranty soon.

[gavs]

The clutch pack is a riveted assembly containing the drive plate and both clutches. The kit also contains new actuators and a selection of shims to get the right gap conditions for the clutches. This is what the kit looks like:

[Eaglehawk]

Well, the wife says she can still get the shuddering on a certain corner nearby.

What she failed to notice was the fact the steering wheel isn't pointing straight up when driving along a straight piece of road. Back to the dealers next Friday for the 5th time. My attempts to replicate the shuddering have come up with nothing.

[Zakarados]

Another day, another break down..... Up to break down number 4 now, same issue, engine light and EPC light... I assume it is cylinder 4 again. Will be getting VW assist to tow it to VW in Monday....

[nicholas_egan]

Unfortunately, my wife managed to make it shudder again this morning

I have a feeling I have the same problem. After the DSG update, the computer seems obsessed with second gear; drive into an intersection, esp. with a roundabout, coasting up to it to check for oncoming traffic. Attempts to accelerate through the intersection will result in it forgetting 1st exists and rpm drops, leading to the shuddering. Same as if you attempted to drive a manual in too low a gear.

[prcurrie]

I have a feeling I have the same problem. After the DSG update, the computer seems obsessed with second gear; drive into an intersection, esp. with a roundabout, coasting up to it to check for oncoming traffic. Attempts to accelerate through the intersection will result in it forgetting 1st exists and rpm drops, leading to the shuddering. Same as if you attempted to drive a manual in too low a gear.

Is that the most recent update for the DSG? Like a few weeks old? 1st and 2nd are really different now - I'm not a fan of it

[gavs]

I have a feeling I have the same problem. After the DSG update, the computer seems obsessed with second gear; drive into an intersection, esp. with a roundabout, coasting up to it to check for oncoming traffic. Attempts to accelerate through the intersection will result in it forgetting 1st exists and rpm drops, leading to the shuddering. Same as if you attempted to drive a manual in too low a gear.

They won't ever fix this problem mate. The problem they have is that TVS engineering who have written dsg tunes in the Netherlands (who also provide tech support to VW in the Netherlands) have solved this issue and for VW to have Borg Warner RE-write the code to the same specs as TVS then they won't achieve the same (bulltish) fuel consumption figures, they will be admitting they got it wrong and will also potentially be in breach of IP laws. Unfortunately, to get this solved you have 2 solutions. 1) drive in M all the time but this doesn't overcome clamp-force problems or 2) pay for a dsg tune which alters the shift points in D and S and provides better clamp force through the early stages o the rev range to stop clutch slip, hence prolonging clutch life