New GTI Turbo Specs

**Guy_H** · 31-05-2012, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Tim

Im sorry this has nothing to do with technical knowledge.
I would suggest if you understand this engine better than VW do you might want to help them out a little. In the stock calibration they are having all sorts of problems and clearly have been incapable of rectifying it to date.

I am merely saying that if someone is looking to purchase a car with the thought to modifying it they would be best to look at a car equipped with a different engine. To me its irresponsible to pursue a tuning program with the possibility of getting in the middle of someones warranty claim.

I take it you have never disassembled a twincharger motor or examined the ECU code then

There have been many, many more A4 / A5 / Q5's that have had engines replaced than twinchargers (and I'm sure a hell of a lot less sold) - If you were not going to tune a car that MAY have a problem, then you shouldn't tune anything.

I have heard of Golf R engines failing, TSI engines failing & MKV engines failing - as with the twinchargers, its RARE, but it does happen. I suppose you would never tune a car with any form of DSG gearbox?

**Tim** · 31-05-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Guy_H

I take it you have never disassembled a twincharger motor or examined the ECU code then

There have been many, many more A4 / A5 / Q5's that have had engines replaced than twinchargers (and I'm sure a hell of a lot less sold) - If you were not going to tune a car that MAY have a problem, then you shouldn't tune anything.

I have heard of Golf R engines failing, TSI engines failing & MKV engines failing - as with the twinchargers, its RARE, but it does happen. I suppose you would never tune a car with any form of DSG gearbox?

Not sure why you want to have an argument but anyways ill explain my stance in simple terms so maybe you can see a little bit beyond your own ego.

Nope ive never disassembled a twin charger motor and probably wont.
Youre right any engine/component can fail and there are some of the Audis that are having horrible oil consumption problems. I would be cautious modifying those too. Ive always taken a responsible stance and told people to ensure their cars are healthy by putting some kms on them before getting a tune. Again mostly so they can get any warranty concerns sorted out before hand. The last thing I want is for a warranty to be denied but not caused by a product that I sell.

Where we differ is that I have nothing invested in this platform so I am free to give an honest opinion of which car to purchase if youre looking to modify it. Keep in mind the original poster in this thread is just weighing up options as to whether this is a good car to use as a base to modify.

One thing to remember is that I am here first and foremost to be part of the community. I enjoy offering advice/opinion where I feel it is of assistance. Im not trying to sabotage your business. Im not trying to say a anyones car will spontaneously combust due to an aftermarket tune. You are allowed to disagree. I draw the line when you start attacking my credibility.

My point is clear. Due to the high number of warranty claims being experienced on the twin charger engines I wouldnt recommend playing russian roulette with ones warranty. If you disagree with me that is fine but dont come here trying to make out that I dont know my arse from my elbow when it is you that wishes to ignore the facts.

**Lock & Load** · 31-05-2012, 02:54 PM

I entirely agree with Tims post , why would anyone rush to get a aftermarket ecu tune if one knowingly knew that their particular ride had issues such as ( oil consumption etc ) my car has gone through 3 liters of oil having only done 3400 km , i for one wont risk my warranty until this issue is sorted out .

Why play Russian roulette with your 3 year warranty ,

**gavs** · 31-05-2012, 03:49 PM

Hmmmm, common theme starting to emerge within tuning threads. Said it once, say it again. The other areas of this forum have enough mud slinging regarding tunes and tuners, namely being started or inflammed from one camp in particular and it's associates. While not a moderator, I theoretically have no ability to delete posts but so help me if this sh*t continues in the 6R section of the forum I will speak to the moderators regarding the warning system and/or banning of forum members for inciting this kind of rubbish in our section. If people want to play dirty, go do it in the golf sections, plenty of egos over there to go play with.

Now, semi back on topic, ATYPIC, it's not a question of possibility but moreso reality, though it's very very unlikely that porosity is the issue.

**cyborgcuprajq** · 31-05-2012, 08:03 PM

Actually the oil consumption was fixed in my car after getting the piston rings replaced... Never droped a single ml of oil in 2000kms. But it started to sound like a sewing machine and 2 weeks later connecting rod @ cylinder 1 was totally worn out and piston from cylinder 4 also failed causing low compression.

**Acko1991** · 31-05-2012, 09:33 PM

End of the day...none of you are Volkswagen Engineers who work at wolfsburg so I don't get why you have these complicated engineering arguments.

**Transporter** · 31-05-2012, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Acko1991

End of the day...none of you are Volkswagen Engineers who work at wolfsburg so I don't get why you have these complicated engineering arguments.

Not every VW engineer working at Wolfsburg is necesserily the smartest one. Otherwise every VW car would be perfect.

**gavs** · 01-06-2012, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Transporter

Not every VW engineer working at Wolfsburg is necesserily the smartest one. Otherwise every VW car would be perfect.

The engineering department for the twincharged motors isn't in Wolfsburg

But, it is indeed a valid point. however, when it comes to software.....

**Guy_H** · 01-06-2012, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Tim

My point is clear. Due to the high number of warranty claims being experienced on the twin charger engines I wouldnt recommend playing russian roulette with ones warranty. If you disagree with me that is fine but dont come here trying to make out that I dont know my arse from my elbow when it is you that wishes to ignore the facts.

I do not know where you get your "Facts" from - there are not a "high number" of warranty claims, the percentage is extremely low per units delivered - fact. I understand there are more claims on DSG gearboxes that twincharge motors (that's what my friends at VW tell me) and even then, the DSG claims are an extremely low percentage of overall units sold.

The engine has never been recalled, its in it's 7th year or so of production, its still being produced to date, its won several awards including "engine of the year".

Your "advice/opinion" does not seem to be based on first hand experience with this engine or platform, mine is (and yes, the community benefits from this I hope). I assume your advice/opinion is based on what you have read on the internet or from talking to people (correct me if I'm wrong).

Fact is the Polo 6R GTI is one of the best sports hatches that VW have released in the past 20 years, won "Bang for your Bucks" hands down, and its fantastic.

To the OP - Buy a Polo GTI, Mod it & enjoy it - join the happy owners group. That's my opinion.