H.I.D. Anyone?

**BR @ ON** · 03-11-2010, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by matty

Tonight I will order some Phillips dimond visions, osram nightbreakers and Maybe one other bulb type if I can find a good one. I'll test them over a week or two and post some pics and my opinion and what doesn't go in my headlights will hopefully fit my driving lights :-p

Hey mat, there is a night vision from Phillips off top of my head, and I remembered it had 3 different coloured beams combined into one. That seemed pretty awesome. And they got a few HID look-alikes as well. Don't know how it compares in a POLO though.

**matty** · 05-11-2010, 03:58 PM

anyone know what the hardest thing in the world is?... changing the polo's headlight globes. had to remove the whole headlight!?!?! maybe it me but that seems a bit excesive? but im fo sure now the the polo uses h7's

**Hail22** · 05-11-2010, 04:33 PM

I'm going to wait for the Germany companies/chinese companies to make ADR compliant units, been browsing and finding there is a lot of headlight units complete but with a LED DRL setings for the VAGCOM system.

So i'm going to take my time and wait.

**matty** · 05-11-2010, 04:55 PM

new headlights is definantly the goal for the finished car, but for the time being, $43 for new bulbs isnt much

**team_v** · 05-11-2010, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hail22

I'm going to wait for the Germany companies/chinese companies to make ADR compliant units, been browsing and finding there is a lot of headlight units complete but with a LED DRL setings for the VAGCOM system.

So i'm going to take my time and wait.

Compliance isn't the issue from memory.
The major cost comes with fitting, re-wiring, coding and making sure it is legal (self levelling system and washers)
Add this to the cost of the light surrounds (with projectors) and you are looking at around $4000.

Bi Xenons are one of the few factory options that it are cheaper than a retrofit.

**BR @ ON** · 06-11-2010, 08:14 AM

I am very confident that a Chinese made VW OEM Bi Xenon unit will not cost you USD$4000 or AUD for that matter...

Mind you, even though they had 4 VW full car factories under Shanghai VW JV Group, they are yet to set up production for the new Gen Polo. Nevertheless, the Chinese is notorious for matching the looks (and accessories), but not necessarily the drive train in their domestic market vehicles...

Which is STILL good news for us buying genuine VW parts! $4000 will get you a long way with VW OEM stylings.

**Maverick** · 06-11-2010, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by BR @ ON

I am very confident that a Chinese made VW OEM Bi Xenon unit will not cost you USD$4000 or AUD for that matter...

Where the headlamp unit is made is irrelevant to the cost from Volkswagen and they are generally made in Europe by a company like Hella.

Retrofitting (without labour) a set of bi-xenons to the Mark V Golf is going to cost you over $4000 in parts and allow another $2000 for fitment (2 days) if you can't do it yourself (there is a lot of work involved).

Mind you, even though they had 4 VW full car factories under Shanghai VW JV Group, they are yet to set up production for the new Gen Polo. Nevertheless, the Chinese is notorious for matching the looks (and accessories), but not necessarily the drive train in their domestic market vehicles...

Which is STILL good news for us buying genuine VW parts! $4000 will get you a long way with VW OEM stylings.

Why is it? Volkswagen factories in China are only for the domestic market and their accessories most likely will not fit other markets cars due to small changes.

**BR @ ON** · 06-11-2010, 12:29 PM

They do not design cars in China, they only strip down the power to suit their traffic jams! thats why it's a no brainer... as far as the accessories go. And why would it cost 2k for a fitting?? So its a 6K job in your mind? Drop me a name of your mechanic that makes 2k for that kind of wiring service, and I will make sure I AVOID them!

IF YOU ARE RIGHT, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD NOT TO DO A 200 BACKYARD HID CONVERSION!
The price tag simply do not weigh up... 6000-200=5800!. I would personally spent the extra 5k or perhaps a bit more to get a Audi A1 (if bling is what I am after...)

At moment, the new Gen Polo is available in China in minimum amount as direct import. I am pretty sure they could produce a full functional production line in fraction of time it took the south africans. it was almost like instantaneous for them set up a Tiguan production line from when it was released.

**Maverick** · 06-11-2010, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by BR @ ON

They do not design cars in China, they only strip down the power to suit their traffic jams! thats why it's a no brainer... as far as the accessories go. And why would it cost 2k for a fitting?? So its a 6K job in your mind? Drop me a name of your mechanic that makes 2k for that kind of wiring service, and I will make sure I AVOID them!

I've made posts before that give a breakdown of the costs but you're looking at $2500 for the headlights, $500 for the harnesses and bi-xenon controller, $500 in ballasts and some other parts.

You have to remove the interior down one side of the car to run the wiring that comes out near the rear suspension and the front suspension, remove part of the dash to fit the controller, run additional wiring between the light controller under the steering wheel to the headlights, fit new connectors to the headlight harness, put the car up on a hoist to fit the front and rear level sensors and possibly fit a new sway bar or other components depending, hook all this up and program and test the system.

So yes you're not going to get much change out of two days labour.

IF YOU ARE RIGHT, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD NOT TO DO A 200 BACKYARD HID CONVERSION!
The price tag simply do not weigh up... 6000-200=5800!. I would personally spent the extra 5k or perhaps a bit more to get a Audi A1 (if bling is what I am after...)

The backyard $200 HID conversion is stupid and idiotic and affects all the other drivers on the road. I hope they bring in laws to crush cars fitted with illegal and stupid HID conversions.

If you can't see the different between a proper factory bi-xenon setup and the ebay $100 special you shouldn't be driving.

At moment, the new Gen Polo is available in China in minimum amount as direct import. I am pretty sure they could produce a full functional production line in fraction of time it took the south africans. it was almost like instantaneous for them set up a Tiguan production line from when it was released.

What this has to do with anything is beyond me........