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Mikefc Fuel 24-03-2013, 03:01 PM
wai There can be differences,... 24-03-2013, 03:20 PM
gavs Fuel 24-03-2013, 08:55 PM
MrDeathLad Where would one procure such... 24-03-2013, 09:05 PM
Lemonskin I always use BP. tried Caltex... 24-03-2013, 09:13 PM
Polo_GTI BP ultimate FTW 26-03-2013, 01:56 PM
ill0gitech I only use Shell Vpower, and... 26-03-2013, 02:29 PM
ATYPIC May as well just say Caltex... 26-03-2013, 02:29 PM
nomadx38 Any more than 0% ethanol is... 26-03-2013, 06:22 PM
gavs Fuel 26-03-2013, 10:27 PM
Diesel_vert Depends who you ask. ... 27-03-2013, 12:35 AM
ill0gitech Is the United 100RON more... 27-03-2013, 07:29 AM
Martin A few people on this forum... 27-03-2013, 08:09 AM
nomadx38 Actually they had this exact... 27-03-2013, 08:37 AM
ill0gitech Agreed, except that the... 27-03-2013, 09:07 AM
Martin Yes - I remember that test -... 27-03-2013, 09:20 AM
gavs Fuel 27-03-2013, 08:58 AM
nomadx38 The price is sort of... 27-03-2013, 09:48 AM
Diesel_vert Source? As will... 27-03-2013, 10:30 AM
Martin The price spread between E10... 27-03-2013, 10:28 AM
nomadx38 Main reasons I don't use it:... 27-03-2013, 11:09 AM
Diesel_vert The manufacturer, VAG... 27-03-2013, 11:24 AM
pologti18t I have used Liberty 100 in my... 27-03-2013, 03:14 PM
alexaescht Fuel 27-03-2013, 03:27 PM
Diesel_vert 'No biodiesel' actually... 27-03-2013, 04:04 PM
alexaescht Fuel 27-03-2013, 05:07 PM
PoloDave Not entirely true, there is... 27-03-2013, 08:07 PM
nomadx38 You don't happen to live/work... 27-03-2013, 09:01 PM
PoloDave you are correct sir :) And... 27-03-2013, 09:50 PM
Drooberius Have a question... I want to... 04-04-2013, 07:14 PM
Diesel_vert In most cases, the fuels will... 04-04-2013, 08:01 PM
nomadx38 That can be worse for your... 05-04-2013, 01:50 PM
Drooberius Just on a slightly side... 16-04-2013, 12:06 PM
Diesel_vert It's generally advisable to... 16-04-2013, 07:16 PM
PoloDave Saw 5th gear yesterday with... 16-04-2013, 08:52 PM
wai It's not the crap you can see... 17-04-2013, 07:20 AM
amazeer I have been told that the... 17-04-2013, 06:12 PM
wai In all the underground bulk... 17-04-2013, 10:36 PM
nomadx38 The light comes on when the... 16-04-2013, 12:27 PM
gavs Fuel 16-04-2013, 01:10 PM
ATYPIC Geez...and I thought driving... 16-04-2013, 01:37 PM
Hail22 http://www.vwwatercooled.com.a... 16-04-2013, 01:57 PM
alexaescht Fuel 16-04-2013, 03:16 PM
nomadx38 Yeah definitely not right! I... 26-04-2013, 09:16 AM
alexz my GTI gets MINIMUM 500km to... 26-04-2013, 11:02 AM
Yaks1974 Agree with the others you... 26-04-2013, 03:00 PM
nomadx38 Just wondering but are you... 26-04-2013, 03:14 PM
Mikefc mmmm, okay - will look into... 26-04-2013, 08:51 PM
MJKooLio Silly question... or maybe... 29-04-2013, 05:14 PM
nomadx38 I'm pretty sure you can but... 29-04-2013, 05:19 PM
amazeer Definitely not. Shell E10 is... 29-04-2013, 08:58 PM
alexaescht Fuel 29-04-2013, 10:53 PM
Hail22 ATF is quite cheap at the... 29-04-2013, 11:04 PM
MJKooLio Fuel 30-04-2013, 06:27 PM
amazeer new cars that can run on... 30-04-2013, 09:34 PM
wai The RON is not the only thing... 30-04-2013, 09:56 PM
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  1. #1
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    new cars that can run on regular 91 unleaded should also be OK to use e10. (run my mitsubishi and ****box ford on it) The turbo VWs are premium fuel only.

    Re my previous comment about caltex, the rating for their E10 is not on the website but I filled up there tonight, it is written on the pump 91.

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    The RON is not the only thing that you need to consider when selecting a fuel.

    Ethanol has roughly 30% less calorific value than petrol. Because it is a 10% blend, this is a 3% reduction in the energy available.

    More important is that ethanol burns lean. When the ethanol combusts. the oxygen atoms in ethanol are released and this causes the mixture to be lean. From an emission point of view, it reduces unburnt HC and CO/CO2, but more than triples NOx because of high combustion temperatures from running lean.

    Overall, you will see roughly 10% increase in fuel consumption. This can be reduced just a little by re-tuning the engine, however if you are unable to get E10 (only available in capital cities and major regional centres), your engine will then run rich.

    The oil companies are pushing E10 in NSW, because there is a government mandated 6% substitution of petrol with a bio-fuel. If oil companies do not sell 6% bio-fuel, they are subject to fines in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. When you look at the current split of SULP / PULP, and E10, this lets them meet the 6% substitution. If it looks like the 6% substitution is not going to be met, then oil companies will artificially drop the price of E10, or even get service stations to shut down their PULP pumps thereby forcing users to buy E10.

    So, it is not the RON, or any potentially corrosive effects of ethanol. or that ethanol will absorb water from the atmosphere. There are a whole lot of other issues in using ethanol blended fuels.

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