extended waranty

[JonW]

I will read that huge thread, but as a buyer one can only start from the info that they get told when ordering their car which is as current as possible since it was quoted just the other day.... and at that time the dealer didnt offer me a PDS just told me the price to try and make a sale i guess, they never offered me any brochure / paperwork.

So if you are saying all the extended warranties have the same rules and your 'facts' above hold true for all of these, and assuming what you say about price info above is correct then I wont worry about buying one of these right away.

Anyway, to make up a price as a 'pre-purchase discount' that is the same as the normal price to get 'suckers' to pay up front when they dont have to, is called gaining money by deception isnt it? If so then I dont understand how they can get away with it?

[brad]

I will read that huge thread,

If it saves you $500-1000 then it's probably worth the time.

but as a buyer one can only start from the info that they get told when ordering their car which is as current as possible since it was quoted just the other day.... and at that time the dealer didnt offer me a PDS just told me the price to try and make a sale i guess, they never offered me any brochure / paperwork.

No, as a buyer of a financial product you have to read the PDS. You even sign a document that says you've read & understand the terms & conditions. There is a copy of the PDS on the VW website.
Yes, the salesman should give you a price & try & make a sale. That's his job & he should attempt to get full price for it. It's up to the informed purchaser to question the offer & make a counter-offer or reject the salesman's offer.

Lets face it, as a buyer of any major good or service it would be foolish to present yourself to a salesperson without a certain level of preparation & research.

So if you are saying all the extended warranties have the same rules and your 'facts' above hold true for all of these, and assuming what you say about price info above is correct then I wont worry about buying one of these right away.

No, I said the VW extended warranty underwritten by Alliance offers those conditions. It's all in the PDS.

I can't comment on other warranties as I haven't read the PDS. Dealerships offer a number of warranties from different underwriters with vastly different T&Cs. They are not obliged to make the VW Extended Warranty the first offer to the customer.

Anyway, to make up a price as a 'pre-purchase discount' that is the same as the normal price to get 'suckers' to pay up front when they dont have to, is called gaining money by deception isnt it? If so then I dont understand how they can get away with it?

I'd almost guarantee that everything the salesman did was within the boundaries of the law. Given that he tried to sucker you, maybe you should try a different dealer or a different salesman in the same dealership. Make it known why you choose to go elsewhere. Generally, salesmen aren't overly friendly with each other as they often screw each other over for a sale.

[JonW]

Well i hear what youre saying. Anyway, my story is that I went to a dealer and drove a car, liked it and ordered it, like anyone else would. The next thing they did was spring the 'you should buy an extended warranty!' on me... er, WTF?! i dont even have the car yet... its months away! I didnt expect that kind of upsell so hadnt researched it. I have now. After a lot of time spent doing so I would comment that the huge thread really should be edited and manged (perhaps with a summary) if it is to be a sticky thread and be classed as 'useful'; right now its 64 pages of recurring questions littered with out of date products and pricing, but I will concur that yes it does prove that by ringing round the dealers you can get the same warranty product cheaper, but as most of the info in the thread is now very out of date, I suggest people start about 10pages back from the end and read from there.

Anyway, Im not the OP of this thread and so I will bow out now, I dont even need an extended warranty for 3+ years since i dont even have a car on my driveway yet, and wont have for months - by the time i need one, the products and people involved will all have changed again.

[brad]

The upsell still isn't over. You still have the big-boobed lady with the low cut top that sells tint/paint protection/ fabric protection & scratch insurance to deal with at delivery. Like drugs, you should just say no.

[JonW]

LOL, I always say know to anything with 'protection' in the title when its from a car dealer, its like never staying in a hotel with the word 'quality' in its name!