APR Stage 1 Tune - Finally Available for CTH Engines!

**Guy_H** · 20-12-2014, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by spare

So I wonder when Jake is officially starting at EuroCare so I can book this in?

I called up Quattro yesterday (before finding out this morning that Quattro Motors are planning to shut shop), to discuss the tune, and Jake just said they're booked out till Mid Jan, but never mentioned anything about Quattro Closing, or the move to EuroCare.

Also with the Christmas Sale, I was told that to get the discount the job has to literally have the work carried out within the sale period.

I thought that as long as you booked and paid for the tune within the sale period, that even if the date they are free to get the work done falls outside of the sales period (in this case mid Jan), you should still be eligible?

These workshops are all booked out weeks ahead of time, so unless I've missed something, it seems you have to somehow predict when a sale is expected to occur so that you can book it in a few weeks prior so that the work gets carried out during the sales date period?

Surely not? ...I'm confused! :/

Spare - yes, tune has to be done in the sale period - its an electronic thing, and the sale promotion code is swiched off on the server by the US APR staff - out of Australia's control. Jake is at Eurocare as of the 12th January I understand - and a second Perth distributor starting late January.

Originally Posted by danielv10

Guy, does this mean a new customer with a CAVE engine can get the updated tune now? Well done guys on getting that bit more out. Hopefully it'll be safe for these touchy engines. Cheers

Yes, correct, new found power for CTH owners will be available from February. If you have a suspect engine, get it checked out firstly - once the pistons are bad, they don't self heal

Originally Posted by DETROITCANDY

Here's a question that you might be able to shed some light on.
My MY13 CAV engine was replaced under warranty @ 18000km, with what I was told was a CTH series engine which was current production (at teh time) with all the hardware updates to reduce oil consumption. Had to wait 3 months for engine from OS since there were none left in Aus. The replacement engines apparently come blank and are re-stamped to match engine number on chassis. Is the ecu hardware different between CAV & CTH engine cars or just the coding? I suppose what I'm asking is, could my car be tuned considering the ECU hardware might still be CAV with CTH coding? Is there anyway to check the hardware or software to see what is in the car? Do you think they were telling me porkies when they said it was replaced with a CTH engine? Is that even possible?

If you have a full invoice from VW with part numbers I might be able to check the hardware used.

Originally Posted by jossa

I had mine done today. Needless to say, I took the long way home!
First impressions are:
- as the graph suggests, below 2000rpm it feels similar.
- there is a definite surge when the turbo takes over and this is where it gets fun!
- the engine just feels smoother and gear changes seem much better (?)
- there is torque everywhere!
- intake noise (suck and whooshes!) and DSG farts sound different/better. I have HP intake and resi delete.
- and, I may need to check this further, the oil temperature stayed 3 or so degrees lower than usual. I drive with the MFD on oil temp.
Very happy!

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Good stuff - we have done quite a few now & the responses are all good!

**Taylor Swift** · 20-12-2014, 06:51 PM

Got the tune done by Jake at Quattro on Thursday the 18th, I booked it in on the Wednesday, only took an hour. The improvement is massive! Well done guys and Guy!

Interested in a few other mods now. Does the 1.4 HP CAI do anything speccy??

Once again thanks!

**my12st** · 22-12-2014, 10:31 AM

Yes, correct, new found power for CTH owners will be available from February. If you have a suspect engine, get it checked out firstly - once the pistons are bad, they don't self heal

G'day Guy,

Re: above, Any idea on the power differences for CTH owners over what is currently available? I have a 2013 Fabia RS with the CTH engine and I'm now going to hold off getting a tune until Feb.

Cheers,

Mark.

**Guy_H** · 22-12-2014, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Taylor Swift

Got the tune done by Jake at Quattro on Thursday the 18th, I booked it in on the Wednesday, only took an hour. The improvement is massive! Well done guys and Guy!

Interested in a few other mods now. Does the 1.4 HP CAI do anything speccy??

Once again thanks!

Intake works well, and better when coupled with an exhaust too. expect an extra ~15 kw crank, an intercooler is also worthwhile!

Originally Posted by my12st

Yes, correct, new found power for CTH owners will be available from February. If you have a suspect engine, get it checked out firstly - once the pistons are bad, they don't self heal

G'day Guy,

Re: above, Any idea on the power differences for CTH owners over what is currently available? I have a 2013 Fabia RS with the CTH engine and I'm now going to hold off getting a tune until Feb.

Cheers,

Mark.

Depends on your ECU part number, but the gains are as leaked above in the old vs new graphs.

**RUFNIT** · 22-12-2014, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Taylor Swift

Got the tune done by Jake at Quattro on Thursday the 18th, I booked it in on the Wednesday, only took an hour. The improvement is massive! Well done guys and Guy!

Interested in a few other mods now. Does the 1.4 HP CAI do anything speccy??

Once again thanks!

100% agree with Guy, the air intake makes a difference (as well as the sound) and doing the exhaust made it a pretty much complete new experience driving. Well worth the upgrade. Currently saving for the intercooler, as in the QLD warmth the power doesn't stay for long once heat soak sets in.

MR

**spare** · 22-12-2014, 05:44 PM

If you guys could please at least wait till after Christmas to tempt me with the rest of the goods on offer from APR, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

**ruanhui2k** · 13-01-2015, 12:10 PM

Had my car tuned this morning by Muller and Muller at Lakemba NSW, took about 30 mins to be done.
I chose to uploaded only 98 Ron tune as I don't think other maps would be necessary to me.
It took me 40 mins drive before I arrived at the work shop therefore I can feel the difference after the tune at instance.

First impressions:

Low end torque is increased.
Throttle response became more active (especially during below 3000 rpm)
DSG shudder at 1st and 2nd gear almost gone ( this is what surprised me the most as I didn't tune the DSG)
Much more smoother standing start as for a dry clutch gear box

I only drive my car in manual shift mode, and I always keep the gear longer before upshift. (e.g I normally stay in 4th gear at 60km/h even just during daily cruise)
At this stage I couldn't really tell how much quicker the car turned out to be as I only drove 20kms after the tune, but by my experiences and the feeling on the drive, I guess it will be half second or so quicker to hit from 0-100.

I used to tuned my FG XR6 turbo as well as evo 7, both ECU flash only, increased on Horsepower, but not much on drive. However APR tune gave me a whole different experience that a single tune can make such big difference. So hands up and cheers to APR guys!

The only shame today is that there is no dyno available at Muller and Muller therefore I didn't know the before and after figure of fwkw. However Mark from Muller and Muller was a great guy and very helpful, he was from Harding Performance in Brisbane.

So far I am very happy with APR tune on my MY13.5 POLO GTI, CTH engine. Will update to your guys later when I had more driving experience with the tune done.

Next step, I am looking into a HP C.A.I, Milltek downpipe, maybe a intercooler afterwards. Is there any thoughts on these mods?

Regards,

Enoch