anyone want to get rid of there standard sports pack spring?

[PUZ213]

I'm running kw's ATM. But the rears are on max. As with sway bar I reckon well worth getting if u like a bumpy ride and better turn in

[kaanage]

*brain farts*

Can we dumb it down for those who have had long days and want a simple cut version to assist in purchasing.

Sorry Hail22 - I like discussing this stuff in depth 'cos I always learn something with a guy like gavs is involved.

with all dampers, they have to cater for extremes in the operating conditions so I am sure that the stock dampers will have the adequate bleed controls to cope with higher compression/rebound forces related to drastic surface changes. If they don't, then it's pretty pisspoor on vw's behalf because even ford do it on the territory and that is a heap of crap car at the best of times.

Bwahh-hah-hah!! I hate SUVs so don't get me started...
I think we are also discussing radically different time frame for the damper wear - you mentioned them wearing out overnight while I meant they could wear twice as quickly as normal (still a long time for folks who change their car every 3 years).
I can tell you from motorcycle racing that it is AMAZING the amount of wear in a damper when you look at the oil from a rebuild - the oil is heavily colored from all the aluminum particles suspended in it (forks are even worse but it's easy to drain and replace so you do it all the time).

I'm running kw's ATM. But the rears are on max. As with sway bar I reckon well worth getting if u like a bumpy ride and better turn in

Do you get much lift off oversteer with the back end set up like that?

[PUZ213]

Do you get much lift off oversteer with the back end set up like that?

Not that I know of, never had the rear end kick out yet, altho i'm sure it will. Seeing that the rsb is thicker than the front

[bigfoot]

Anyone on here looking to offload there sports springs?

ummm...yes

[gavs]

Hail, with the bone-jarring ride in the GTI along with a swaybar, I say yes, you definitely need one Also, it's personal preference. I prefer KW coz they are KW, that's it H&R or Eibach are just as good really

kaanage, as you might have seen on mine, lift-off oversteer is practically non existant for 2 reasons.
1) ESC
2) ESC

Can't be turned off so the fun police step in as soon as there is any real slip from the rear

Thanks for your support too mate, I value your opinion greatly and seeing as we read the same kind of literature, it's always great to get another perspective on something I have seen the wear induced on dampers and the kind of condition that oil can deteriorate to very quickly (bloody shock oil stinks!) and I have also seen what happens to over-worked dampers from the wrong springs being used (a loud pop, bad smell and sock oil everywhere....) and you are right, I think we were at the opposite poles. If a car wears out it's dampers twice as fast, yet those dampers would have lasted 400000kms, then 200000kms is still a pretty good haul

[kaanage]

kaanage, as you might have seen on mine, lift-off oversteer is practically non existant for 2 reasons.
1) ESC
2) ESC

Can't be turned off so the fun police step in as soon as there is any real slip from the rear

Good stuff but it's a real shame that it can't be fully disabled for track use (I've seen a couple of messed up BMWs where the electronic aids let the driver get away with a lot until the systems couldn't cope the increasing abuse and the cars ended in the wall).

kaanage, as you might have seen on mine, lift-off oversteer is practically non existant

Actually, I was battling with terminal understeer on the Polo cruise (trying to get heat into my semi-slick) so I was a bit preoccupied to check your car's attitude in the mirrors.

yet those dampers would have lasted 400000kms

Anybody getting 400,000km from their dampers in a GTi has bought the wrong car!! A quarter of that is the life I'd expect for the average GTi (with totally stock suspension).

[gavs]

Guys over in europe have found ways around it but nothing that is commercially available. Guess they don't want the liability of someone killing themselves because the ESC has been turned off when it's not meant to be. Oh well, more power fixes the losses caused by slower turn in speeds

[Hail22]

Guys over in europe have found ways around it but nothing that is commercially available. Guess they don't want the liability of someone killing themselves because the ESC has been turned off when it's not meant to be. Oh well, more power fixes the losses caused by slower turn in speeds

Then again, since when has any European got a stock vehicle? They're all defiant and stubborn haha but if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have the wonderful VCDS codes etc

Well gavs...going to have to wait until this wheel manufacturer gets back mate...18x8...i'm fairly concerned about risking my ride etc >.<

Sorry for hijacking this thread, and on another note thank you all so much for your contribution to my demanding questions.

Regards

[gavs]

No worries hail, but you will be looking at springs once those 18s go on my friend, unless you like the sky-jacker look

[Hail22]

No worries hail, but you will be looking at springs once those 18s go on my friend, unless you like the sky-jacker look

REACH FOR THE SKY HONKY!

Yeah probably but I'm sort of annoyed with online shopping due to the back log in Europe/UK.

So I may wait til all the BS picks up pace.