1.2TSI P Plate exemption in QLD?

[Sharkie]

I'm looking at getting a car that my daughter can learn to drive on. Does anybody know if the 1.2TSI has P Plate exemption in QLD?

I'll do the research with QLD Transport, but its either a 1.2TSI or a Fiesta at this time ......

Expecting 1.2TSI Red, manual Sports pack.

Also does the MY12s have BT and MDI now as standard?

[HaydEn]

If it's just for her to learn in she can drive anything.

But I think they are even on the rta's list of moderate performance vehicle. Meaning that she can drive it. However, Depending on whether qld and nsw see eye to eye.

[Hail22]

Learning is anything as she will be with a person holding a full black/gold licence.

P Plates i know for a fact from previous posters in the past saying an application for exemption must be made, they have been sort of cracking down on people saying "oh its the only car we could afford or my dad/mum owned this car and are only willing to give this to me instead of financial aid"

My advice go for the fiesta, parts easily available if she or someone hits the vehicle or if a component breaks/fails as opposed to VW (90% of the Polo parts are held off shore and can take up to 3 weeks to source them) thus she will be without a vehicle unless your all patient waiting for VW to scroll through a parts order while eating a greasy doughnut

Also less red tape to do with regards with various motor bodies/authorities.

Goodluck in your research.

[The_Hawk]

A quick check of the QLD roads website: Home (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

Turns up this:
High-powered (performance) vehicle restriction (Department of Transport and Main Roads)


Where it says:

You may apply for a certificate of exemption if the vehicle you wish to drive meets all of the following:

has a turbocharged or supercharged engine that is not diesel powered
has a power-to-weight ratio of not more than 125kW/t
does not have any other features of a high-powered vehicle as outlined above.


There is also this link:
Department of Transport and Main Roads Probationary Approved Cars

Where you can search for vehicles to see their current status.

Sadly the Polo 77TSI is in the "application required" pile...

As for the process and how likely it is to get through... well that's a whole different story a local might have to answer for you.

[Ben J]

Just get a non turbo one?

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[PUZ213]

pretty sure because it's legal in QLD, being <1.6L and power of the car isn't making much at the motor

[readerr0r]

EDIT: Looks like The_Hawk has linked it all up already, that'll teach me to refresh my old tabs before I post




Just check the QLD Trans website?
High-powered (performance) vehicle restriction (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

They've even integrated the rules into the redbook site.
Department of Transport and Main Roads Probationary Approved Cars

According the redbook, the 77tsi (and GTI) requires a Certificate of Exemption for Driving a High-Powered Vehicle, you can download an info sheet for that here...
Transport and Main Roads Corporate Forms FS4478 - Certificate of Exemption for Driving a High-Powered Vehicle Information Sheet

[The_Hawk]

Looking across the results, it seems things broadly fall into one of three categories, either Banned (like the Golf R), Diesel (and approved) or "requires application" for everything else.

With emissions standards and fuel usage high on the agenda for most companies, small engine, forced induction is becoming very common, QLD Roads seem to have made a rational decision and listed the "Less Than 125kW/T", shame they haven't applied it anywhere. Even if it's a case of they don't bother to review any car until someone applies for it... well surely someone has applied for a Golf or a Polo at some stage.

[Hail22]

Looking across the results, it seems things broadly fall into one of three categories, either Banned (like the Golf R), Diesel (and approved) or "requires application" for everything else.

With emissions standards and fuel usage high on the agenda for most companies, small engine, forced induction is becoming very common, QLD Roads seem to have made a rational decision and listed the "Less Than 125kW/T", shame they haven't applied it anywhere. Even if it's a case of they don't bother to review any car until someone applies for it... well surely someone has applied for a Golf or a Polo at some stage.

There was a member on here who is a P plater and waited 3 months for his application to go through, i believe he was denied once then the second time he botched his excuse later on.

This was in NSW however the RTA accepts any kaka excuse these days...

[koji]

The 77TSI is (as already stated) classed as a high performance car in QLD however, I have a 77TSI Golf and am on my P's and have never had any issues in regards to being pulled over for driving it - even at RBT's etc. Maybe I've just been lucky but it seems as though they aren't too informed on what VW's are permitted for P-Plate drivers.

On another note, still ridiculous how we can't legally drive a 77TSI yet we can drive a R32...I'll leave it there haha.