Whats quicker? APR Polo Gti or AFM SS VE?

**Transporter** · 11-08-2010, 05:36 PM

Just be nice guys!

**insanekiwi** · 11-08-2010, 06:58 PM

You can laugh all you want. I had 136kw at wheels on my slightly heat soaked GTI in summer with Stage 1. The Stage 2 REVO is different from typical APR / GIAC. I don't see why adding more fuel and advancing the timing with higher fuel pressure regulator in winter (much cooler now) cannot get close to 145kw at wheels. 136kw at wheels was Stage 1 REVO, down pipe, Seat intake, K&N in terms of power. Now added 4 bar pressure fuel regulator, turbo TIP, Forge DV with stronger springs, Stage 2, rolling dyno with VAGCOM + cooler weather - I don't see 145kw as impossible.

You don't have to act like a **** to win a prize dude.

Originally Posted by break

LOL!

I'll have whatever your smoking... because your post is a pile of dreamt up nonsense. 145kw with stage 2.... umm... riiiiiight.

Let alone getting close to a VE SS time in that.

**instigator** · 12-08-2010, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by philthy

Just for fun - Simple power to weight:

Boggo VE-SS: 1790 kg, 270 kw - 6.6 kg/kw

Stock polo: 1190 kg, 110 kw - 10.8 kg/kw
Chipped polo: 1190 kg, 150 kw - 7.9 kg/kw
Chip, zorst, FMIC polo: 1190 kg, 170 kw - 7.0 kg/kw

SS wins.

i don't think you thought this true...
you also have the gearing, the way it puts his power down, amount of grip...etc
does the SS have to power they quoted from factory? more/less?
and last but not least, drivers make the difference.
its not allways just power to weight ratio's irl

i proved this alot of times against cars that could be faster "on paper" :-p

**break** · 12-08-2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by insanekiwi

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I'm sure any chipped Polo could do 136kw @ wheels on a dyno in shootout mode running in 3rd gear... but hey... what do I know

The topic is would a chipped Polo be quicker than a VE SS, and the answer is a definite no. Not even with as many auxillary mods as you want, the little K03s can't push out enough HP to make the Polo a contender.

**philthy** · 12-08-2010, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by instigator

i don't think you thought this true...
you also have the gearing, the way it puts his power down, amount of grip...etc
does the SS have to power they quoted from factory? more/less?
and last but not least, drivers make the difference.
its not allways just power to weight ratio's irl ;-)

i proved this alot of times against cars that could be faster "on paper" :-p

That's why I put in my disclaimer on the first line :)

Having said that, my friends mildly tuned VZ SS with an LS1 (with intake, exhaust & tune) felt a lot quicker to drive than my chipped polo. In terms of grip, I would think the RWD commodore with it's wider tyres would be better off.

Not bagging the polo. I love driving mine. It's just not going to keep up with a modern 6.0 litre V8.

**pog** · 12-08-2010, 09:38 AM

Guys, why do we bother. Just enjoy your car.

**philthy** · 12-08-2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by pog

Guys, why do we bother. Just enjoy your car.

I find it an interesting topic.

I don't see why discussing the performance of a car is taboo. If you're not interested tune out.

Also as indicated by some of the responses above, some people have a personal grudge against Petrina due to his participation on a number of forums other than VWW.

My advice: don't take the internet too seriously.

**jasn78** · 12-08-2010, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by philthy

I find it an interesting topic.

I don't see why discussing the performance of a car is taboo. If you're not interested tune out.

Also as indicated by some of the responses above, some people have a personal grudge against Petrina due to his participation on a number of forums other than VWW.

My advice: don't take the internet too seriously.

we dont have a grudge with petrina for going on other forums the issue is he is a troll