Red Devil mkII - The Journey Continues

[seangti]

I am running full negative camber which is around -3 or more for street, im going to get another alignment done soon, will be interesting to compare notes

Do you know how much corner weighting is ?

Not actually sure on price, I didn't ask... a mate had his set-up done for $350, which was alignment, height, weighting and dampening I believe.

[h100vw]

Not actually sure on price, I didn't ask... a mate had his set-up done for $350, which was alignment, height, weighting and dampening I believe.

Will you strip it out for the corner weighting?

Gavin

[team_v]

Will you strip it out for the corner weighting?

Gavin

Would you need to allow for extra driver weight when setting it up as well?
I.e. setting up the car empty would be great but then you add an extra 70-80kg of driver which can throw off the balance somewhat.

[vwthunder]

I know a place here in Melbourne that hires out the scales

I might do DIY

[seangti]

Sorry for the delay, I'm on holiday I've pulled out the rear seats so it's close to track weight. They were actually lighter than I'd expected. Have left the seat base as that's just foam, and I didn't have time before going away and get back tomorrow night to drop the car off Monday morning.

I'll ask about driver weight when I drop the car off and see what he thinks. I'm dubious as to how much effect this would have for the average punter, it all counts but whether it's tangible to lap times. Will be interesting to get the corner weight measurements and corner heights to better understand the dynamics.

Troy, I was going to DIY, but after reading up further on it, along with being time poor, it'd be best to know how much one turn corresponds to weight movement. So lots of jacking up, turning, dropping, measuring. A professional with the right tools and knowledge will do it in a fraction of the time while I can relax, and know its done right.

[39erman]

I am running full negative camber which is around -3 or more for street, im going to get another alignment done soon, will be interesting to compare notes

Do you know how much corner weighting is ?

I pay $300 to have the car corner weighted, ride height adjustment & wheel aligned. We drop the car off and pick it up later in the day.

Remember that castor is as important as camber. Can toe out and -ve camber be achieved in the rear thru bushings?

[39erman]

Would you need to allow for extra driver weight when setting it up as well?
I.e. setting up the car empty would be great but then you add an extra 70-80kg of driver which can throw off the balance somewhat.

Absolutely. Like the stablisers, you dont want to load the car up with the driver AFTER you've done your setup...

[seangti]

Can toe out and -ve camber be achieved in the rear thru bushings?

Yes, can be done with some whiteline shims. The car has them though I believe it's toe only, though they could have camber adjustment but I don't think so.

[seangti]

oki doki, the car as been sorted. Kmac tops are in. -2.6 degrees on left, -2.2deg on right. All my local tracks are right handers, so makes sense. I forgot to ask about the castor. The car now drives straight, so better than before. The Kmac tops will make some noises kind of like the spring binding as they don't have bearings in them like the factory stuff.

The car now has a 65/35 (f/r) balance. Ride height looks a little funny with a higher rear to front. Though looks comes second to handling. Have only driven straight down the highway to work so no idea how it'll behave. Will keep that for the race track.

Now that's pretty much everything I wanted to sort on the car at the moment, it's running well, the exhaust seems to have quietened down to a reasonable level since Jimmy had it, perhaps the loose turbo bolts or flange had something to do with that. I have looked into changing the rear muffler over, though allowing for it be interchanged, so quiet muffler for road and swap it to the current free flowing one when at the track. I'm now happy and amping to get to the track and drive it like it's been built to be

[team_v]

Glad it's all starting to get sorted out.
When is the next track outting?