Polo GTI, Rear Toe Out Shim Ajusters.

**Eddy** · 17-02-2009, 08:04 PM

Hoyhoy.

Posted this earlier in another section with no replay, so me try again here.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...55&postcount=1

Or if anyone has a different idea to solve the rear 3mm. toe in that the Pog has. This rear toe in doesn't effect road driving too much, but on the track it chops the rear tyres like you wouldn't believe.

**philthy** · 17-02-2009, 08:33 PM

So they're a plate that's that varies in thickness... I wonder if someone could machine some up for you? I think there may be a couple of fitters hanging around the forum

Maybe go to Bunnings and get some different sized washers.. haha, just kidding

Edit: link http://www.whitelineautomotive.com/B...n/138_Shim.pdf

**seangti** · 18-02-2009, 08:51 AM

have you got a quote from whiteline for these? Group buy?

I'm now curious as I've never heard of these things. Can you please tell me what the go is? Take out toe in on the rear? Why would we have toe-in on the rear?

**Eddy** · 18-02-2009, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by seangti

have you got a quote from whiteline for these? Group buy?

I'm now curious as I've never heard of these things. Can you please tell me what the go is? Take out toe in on the rear? Why would we have toe-in on the rear?

Hoyhoy.
First of all I have had several to & from emails with Whiteline with no result except that they aren't going to make any, even offered to get numbers of interested parties, but Naaa.
Secondly the Polo GTI has 3mm rear toe-in on each side.
Just have a good look from the rear & you'll see what I mean.

**Eddy** · 18-02-2009, 09:29 AM

Hoyhoy.

At least Whiteline answered my emails, not like some others.
K-MAC.= nothing & if one day they do decide to answer then I will edit this post.

Ah, me got an answer from K-Mac concerning another matter, just took a while because they were relocating, so me EAT my words.

**Timbo** · 18-02-2009, 10:08 AM

Eddy, try GT3 -- he had a set of these at one stage.

**Eddy** · 18-02-2009, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Timbo

Eddy, try GT3 -- he had a set of these at one stage.

Hoyhoy.
PM just sent, Ta Tim.

**MACCAA** · 18-02-2009, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by seangti

have you got a quote from whiteline for these? Group buy?

I'm now curious as I've never heard of these things. Can you please tell me what the go is? Take out toe in on the rear? Why would we have toe-in on the rear?

Toe in on the rear lessens the tendency for oversteer.Manufacturers generally set cars up for the great unwashed ie understeer.
Having said that,I had a set of the Whiteline shims on the rear of my car.
Couldn't tell the difference on Track or Road.....
Cheers
Len

**GT3** · 18-02-2009, 12:09 PM

Here's my experience with them (posted on an older thread):

For those interested - here's what happened...

My combined rear toe-in (total) has been measured up to +10mm (more recently +7.7mm on a different machine). With the WL rear shims installed, it toed-out the rear by -5mm total, ..massive reduction (WL advertise "up to" -3mm). This mod is a mixed blessing and I'd advise caution in using them, depending on the type of driving you do.

Pros - feels balanced (neutral), better composed and more responsive, eg a lot faster entering straights, vastly improved straight line speed, acceleration and steering responsiveness (with less understeer). Also results in more even tyre wear.

Cons - toe-out makes the rear of the car more unstable in corners, even though there's less understeer. If you track your car and/or take cnrs at very high speeds, the shims may not suit you.

If the shims could toe-out to -2.5mm (rather than -5mm) then they'd be perfect, but they don't so be weary.