Ottinger Chip

[RhysQ]

So our potential new Polo 1.6L auto is OK?

Maris

for the money a chip costs, it is not worth doing a naturally aspirated car. the power gains are minimal.....sometimes only maybe 6 or 7kW.

[Grant]

are you sure its covered by vw australia? because i have heard of 3rd party tuning in europe that is covered by warranty, but never in australia. it'll be at the top of my to-do list if its true

[Blitzen]

are you sure its covered by vw australia? because i have heard of 3rd party tuning in europe that is covered by warranty, but never in australia. it'll be at the top of my to-do list if its true

Thats exactly why I made the inquiry. I want keen on an ECU tune that had the possible ability to void my warranty in case in the far off chance something related to the ECU tune caused a problem with my car. From what I was told, the extra cost of the tune($250 per year) covers the warranty of the tune that extends to the vehicle itself(So long as the vehicle is still within its 3 year factory warranty). This paperwork is proof of the ECU tune. The warrenty can be extended out to 3 years at $250 per year.

[Blitzen]

for the money a chip costs, it is not worth doing a naturally aspirated car. the power gains are minimal.....sometimes only maybe 6 or 7kW.

Yeah...you just have to look at the REVO for the 1.4L Polo...75kw to 82kw...Dosn't seem worth it for $1499.

[WEDEL.1]

Yeah...you just have to look at the REVO for the 1.4L Polo...75kw to 82kw...Dosn't seem worth it for $1499.

I didn't know there was a 75KW 1.4L. Ours is 55KW and the current model is 59KW.

Could that be the 1.6L?

Maris

[Blitzen]

I didn't know there was a 75KW 1.4L. Ours is 55KW and the current model is 59KW.

Could that be the 1.6L?

Maris

Sorry, my bad...The REVO site lists it as a 1.4L 75PD bhp, but lists the chipped power output as 82KW...

[DubSteve]

for the money a chip costs, it is not worth doing a naturally aspirated car. the power gains are minimal.....sometimes only maybe 6 or 7kW.

LOL its usually about 8-12kw, and it depends on what you do!

[Celestine]

So our potential new Polo 1.6L auto is OK?

Its possible, but money vs kw/torque gains is not worth it. I originally spoke to Guy Harding (Harding Performance/APR) a while ago (as I too own a 1.6L), he said to me not to bother. The tune does exist, but you'll be getting about 6kw, and about 15~20nm's more torque for almost $1800. There are several other companies out there that do it - Angel Tuning in the UK, and Superchips have it as well.

I didn't know there was a 75KW 1.4L. Ours is 55KW and the current model is 59KW.Could that be the 1.6L?

I dont think so. My 1.6L is 77kw.

[Timbo]

-The Ottinger program is non switchable, Because...

-The Ottinger program is covered by the Volkswagen factory warranty.

-The price of the Ottinger tune also covers the warranty paperwork required buy VW Group to cover the car. So long as the car is still within its warranty period, the Ottinger program can be added and still covered as a factory option.

The full terms of the Oettinger "warranty" (which is really an insurance policy, where the applicable law is that of Switzerland ) can be found here. While I believe Guy is certainly trying to do the right thing here, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say "the Oettinger program is covered by the Volkswagen factory warranty"; it is more a case that if any damage occurs because of the Oettinger program, you'll be able to claim using the EUROPÄISCHE insurance, to a maximum damage repair value of approximately $AUD4,200.

Perhaps I am reading the wrong document, but I don't see anything in that document that reflects any acknowledgement of the "warranty" by VWA or its dealers. In order to claim, you'll need to go to the insurance company, not a VWA dealer.

As I said, notwithstanding the above, I reckon this is strong evidence of good intentions on Oettinger's behalf by Guy and HPA. But the reality is that any claim under the insurance policy will require proof that the Oettinger program was the casue of the damage. In this respect, I don't think the legal position is much different to the consumer rights we all have under the Trade Practices Act (where goods have to be fit for purpose, and skills/service must be undertaken with due care). Here's
a handy guide.

Of course, the Oettinger warranty is in addition to these statutory consumer warranty rights, and certainly mitigates the risk associated with a repair shop that has no financial backing to honour statutory warranty claims.

But a VWA factory warranty it ain't!

[Blitzen]

Guy was not the person I heard about the Ottinger warranty from, but from a number of VW dealers(3 VW dealers in NSW and NT), but he is the person I sought to confirm the claim. If the program was not covered in Australia as a protected VW item, why would the Ottinger purposefully go out there to claim that it was?
As well as providing the paperwork that goes along to compliment the warrenty for VW at extra cost to the installation process(If you take away the $250 for the additional warrenty paperwork, the Ottinger program is only $10 more expensive than the APR program that offers the same power and torque increase, so effectively Ottinger are digging themselves into a hole for charging more for a tune that has the same output as their main competitor).
This is what I was told, but I invite you to seek confirmation.