Forge FMIC Group Buy - Polo 9N3 GTI

**break** · 29-10-2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by jasn78

those kits add way too much piping for any1 i know liking but hey each to their own

Yes and no, they are using the same piping setup that all the MKIV GTi's and TT's used, which I would expect has been well tried and tested on the 1.8T over the years.

I think you'd find the extra piping would have a marginal impact on lag, in the order of maybe 200rpm max... which in a car that comes on boost well below 2000rpm I don't see as a problem.

Edit: Actually, even 200rpm more lag would be unlikely... that's the sort of lag increase you see on a WRX moving from zero piping on the top mount to the long piping required for a front mount.

Edit 2: I would also have a guess that the turbo to hot side of the intercooler piping on the stock intercooler would be comparable. The stock piping goes down from the turbo to next to the sump, across to the side of the motor, then all the way to the front of the engine bay to the bottom of the stock side mount. This kit would send that hot air slightly up over the MAF and intake pipe, to the front of the motor, and down to the intercooler. I would say the distances are very similar.

Edit 3: I stand corrected, as this shows the actual route of the intercooler piping. So yes, this kit is longer than other kits:

**noone** · 29-10-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by break

These intercooler kits are technically the cheapest, but they are out of stock at the moment.

I went down that path. With the freight they are pretty much the same cost but with no support and not a brand name. May have changed a little with the strong aus$, how much you expecting it to be landed?

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Oh yeah, BTW anyone waiting on an update, the Group buy will not be going ahead at this stage as we don't have the numbers. I'm not really keen on going back to Forge and asking for 3-4 coolers at the same price, so if anyone wants to take the lead, please let me know and I can forward you some info as to where I got to and who I've been talking with.

**h100vw** · 29-10-2009, 06:19 PM

Ok, so lets get back to the group buy please.

There's a million ways of getting the job done, This thread is about Forge's solution.

Gavin

**Gti Dave** · 29-10-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hilal

Its a lot to spend on just a front mount intercooler upgrade, my budget for a fmic is set to $600, picking up my gti this weekend.

Wat? Only $600 and you expect to get a decent intercooler kit (assuming that's what you want and not a backyard job)? All I can say is good luck mate. Maybe you might change your mind one day and realise that you might or should've spent the extra cash for a good one.

I go the Forge one and have never looked back. Asides from the chip and suspension upgrades, the FMIC kit is the next best thing to see a real change (especially on warm to hot days).

**Hilal** · 30-10-2009, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by jasn78

those kits add way too much piping for any1 i know liking but hey each to their own

The intercooler looks way to big and the piping route is silly, that intercooler kit looks like some chinese **** and is only worth $300 max.

In regards to the forge kit coming with a reinforcement bar, I think its really neat and convenient, but I don't think its needed.

I guess its like having 3 testicles when you only need 1-2.

**Blitzen** · 30-10-2009, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Hilal

The intercooler looks way to big and the piping route is silly, that intercooler kit looks like some chinese **** and is only worth $300 max.

In regards to the forge kit coming with a reinforcement bar, I think its really neat and convenient, but I don't think its needed.

I guess its like having 3 testicles when you only need 1-2.

Up to you man...I think it is great and cheap as to get with the added renforcement bar in there. I would love to have 3 nuts...Its like having 2 million sperm, and only one doing the job.
Anyway, I think you are dreaming if you think you can get a made to fit proven intercooler for $600.

Anyway, back OT...Is this group buy going ahead??

Any more I/C banter can be done in any number of the other I/C threads we have on here.

Forge I/C group buy only talk from here on in.

**Mark** · 03-11-2009, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Gti Dave

Wat? Only $600 and you expect to get a decent intercooler kit (assuming that's what you want and not a backyard job)? All I can say is good luck mate. Maybe you might change your mind one day and realise that you might or should've spent the extra cash for a good one.

I go the Forge one and have never looked back. Asides from the chip and suspension upgrades, the FMIC kit is the next best thing to see a real change (especially on warm to hot days).

Something to think about:

Who here would buy a 2nd hand no-name polo gti intercooler kit, whereas who would buy a brand name 2nd hand kit?

This is something that people who modify cars forget about, and it means that sometimes your loss at resale time can largely negate any cost savings you made when purchasing the kit.

Having modded another car to the hilt, I know that most of those mods lose a lot of their value as soon as they get installed. As such, buying proven and known bolt-ons that can be fitted to other people's cars easily when sold 2nd hand (if you sell the car) is often a more sensible path to take.

However, a well made kit at any cost will always be appealing. A name brand isn't the only indicator of quality, the construction and fit of the kit is the most important thing. So buy whatever gets you a proven, well constructed kit that is a genuine bolt-on and if you can get that at a good price then you have won that battle.

**Servo** · 11-11-2009, 08:36 PM

Ok, veering off topic. Let not make this a "Forge pro / con". Lets get to the nitty gritty. How many people do we need to get his group buy going? Cause I'm jumping on this group buy regardless if it takes me a year to get the damn thing fitted.