ESP on TDI ?

[VW GTI]

Most of that difference was in the resale value, which is very dependent on how you care for your car, klms driven and many other things. Did you read the information you posted?

[pologti18t]

Most of that difference was in the resale value, which is very dependent on how you care for your car, klms driven and many other things. Did you read the information you posted?

And? It applies equally to whether you buy a petrol or diesel version of a car.
Why should how a person cares for a car be dependent on the way it is fueled?

[Matt P]

i'm sure you couldn't find a performance chip for the i30.

i'm sure you'd be wrong on that count (as i looked into it), readily available for about the same money as the golf/polo/etc.. ones

[VW GTI]

And? It applies equally to whether you buy a petrol or diesel version of a car.
Why should how a person cares for a car be dependent on the way it is fueled?

Your comments of 'economy' are based on speculative resale values. They are for a 5 year old car, none of those models of cars have been around 5 years so it's a guess. Take performance and fuel consumption to get a real comparison of economy.

We had a 1L Suzuki Alto as a paddock learn to drive car. Very economic, about 4L/100km when being thrashed. Pity it was really crap to drive and had no power.

[Flaps]

really crap to drive

Suzuki Alto.

had no power.

1L

I wonder why?

[VW GTI]

Hahaha, my point exactly... just because it's economic doesn't mean it's good. There are plenty of other things to look at.

[Sharkie]

Diesels have slightly better resale value than their petrol stablemates and are actually nicer to drive around the "burbs" due to their torquey nature.

Our friend has driven in a 307 and Golf diesel and loved the drive compared to her 6 yr old Mazda 323 and wanted a new small hatch (budget does not stretch to $30K) in diesel. (Its only $3K more than a 1.6 petrol Polo)

Obviously there is a bit of brand snobbery but for basically the same price, why buy a Hyundai over a VW ? The i30 is also quite ugly........ IMO

I doubt she will go for a chip (maybe a trial will help) and will use the car mainly to ferry kids to school and back.

Thanks Phaeton for the info, and I'll try the local dealers again to confirm ESP availability for MY09. Not holding out much hope on them actually knowing though.

[pologti18t]

Diesels have slightly better resale value than their petrol stablemates and are actually nicer to drive around the "burbs" due to their torquey nature.

Its not actually true anymore now that diesel/petrol price margins have grown.

Your comments of 'economy' are based on speculative resale values. They are for a 5 year old car, none of those models of cars have been around 5 years so it's a guess. Take performance and fuel consumption to get a real comparison of economy.

My comments? These are industry surveys and figures. These are the types of things that determine the trade-in value when you go to sell etc etc.

Just remember. On a small car you are coughing up 10% of the retail price for no obvious long term savings (how ever you define it)

IN the end the lady has to decide whether the outlay (roughly 10% of rrp) for a 1.6l TDI I30 is worth it over a 2L (which is hardly lacking in NM/Kw) petrol I30.

[VW GTI]

Or whether the 'savings' of buying an i30 is worth being seen in and living with a Hyundai.