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But you can pay a little extra for a security code to get into the switching which makes it as good as impossible for any dealer to access the switching capabilities of APR. They have to know your pin code, which you decide what 4 numbers you might want.
Andrew :)
I've used two different brands in my mk4 GTI and i can certainly tell the different between chips. Having said that you may be minded to do research on it, there this forum and vortexx
However, im sure most will agree here, that chips give you such a difference to you car, its definetly bang for ure buck
This is good feedback. Im in the process of deciding on a reflash for my golf GTI and am not taking the decision lightly. Its hard to sift thru all the crap and get decent facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharkie
How about REVO?
I had a real awesome deal on it, (and APR is not available in NZ anyway... has Superchip with lower output, and when I spoke to the dealer they were putting down on APR, Giac, and REVO).
So Superchip was out, as I didn't like their attitude and claim on power output.
REVO dealer was only 10 minutes away from me, so I spoke to the guy who was very nice to deal with. Gave me an awesome price $1300NZ installed. I almost bought the switch but due to lack of funds, I will get it later. With switch I can change the settings (like boost and timing) and also turn it off / on, and security lock. Without switch they can't detect it either.
He vagcomed the car after 1 week of use, which had no faults at all. He is going to fine tune it even further later on.
I've been very happy with my tune. Currently I think 6, 6, 5 setting. I can push the timing further to 6 I think. (9 is max) Will tune it on hotter day to be on safe side.
So I got REVO because:
1) Close from home
2) Excellent price
3) Nice dealer
4) Good poweroutput shown from Timbo's dyno chart.
5) And the switch.
The dealer is nice enough to turn the tune off prior to service, and turn it back on after service for me.
First, the chip warz -- all the data I've seen put the four major suppliers in about the same ballpark in terms of output -- and let's face it, that output number is higher than you have traction for :D
Secondly, APR and REVO are switchable -- not sure about GIAC -- REVO requires an additional 'dongle' which costs more, but is very easy to use. Oettinger is not switchable.
Thirdly, depending on where you are, choice of dealer may be a deciding factor. APR appears generally stronger and Guy does a lot of development work, which is a great thing. Equally, there's no question Seb (in Sydney) and Lucas (in Melb) are great on GIAC. REVO is the weakest.
Finally, pricing does vary considerably and all dealers should be free to set their own pricing. Also, IMHO if you are considering a chip for the Pog, you should also factor in at least some improvements to the car's brakes -- harder pads and better fluid is a good start....and you might want to tweak the handling also ....a RSB is a good start.
Are the guys with switchable tune actually switching it? Im not 100% certain that id use that. But then im a lazy bugger :D
I'm not going to pick one software over the other here. All I'll say is that there is a player in the market (not one of the major 4 - APR, Revo, Oettinger or Giac - who's product is rubbish - I initially had it on my Polo) PM me and I'll tell you which one to avoid at all costs.
Dave
APR flash here :)
Guy was very helpfull and gave me lots of advice and also let me know who the closest person was who could do the APR flash.'
Since i got the flash i have had a permanent smile on my face and to be honest i am yet to turn the software off.
:DPower setting 24/7:D
I do -- ocassionally ;) -- don't like to scare the strife when she has it for the day -- and I certainly don't want pimply-faced valet parkers or dealer apprentices feeling the powa :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tim
I'm with you on this one, Mitch. Never turn mine off unless it's going in for service or the wife dings it and needs panelbeating. (:mad:)Quote:
Originally Posted by mitch_gti
Dave