Any one heard of Viezu tuning

[noone]

V-Tune is not compatible.

Your options post tune come down to selectable files and Lemmiwinks / Custom Settings (both let you fiddle a little in the same way)

Those prices are good, what do you want at the end of the day? If APR is close, thats good for the first month. I've never had to call after leaving, i'd say thats likely the same for 90%+ of Polo's with tunes.

If you want Performance, Giac has shown good dyno results, CC is an ongoing story and seems to have the best numbers for KO3 success, Revo I think have some program, I think... Kai had it? Can't remember the details.

I don't mean to badmouth APR, I've been happily scooting around with V1 with some added ingnition timing for years, but I have my own weighing up to do and am again talking about changing my tune (going on too long).

[WaxonWaxoff]

V-Tune is not compatible.

Your options post tune come down to selectable files and Lemmiwinks / Custom Settings (both let you fiddle a little in the same way)

Those prices are good, what do you want at the end of the day? If APR is close, thats good for the first month. I've never had to call after leaving, i'd say thats likely the same for 90%+ of Polo's with tunes.

If you want Performance, Giac has shown good dyno results, CC is an ongoing story and seems to have the best numbers for KO3 success, Revo I think have some program, I think... Kai had it? Can't remember the details.

I don't mean to badmouth APR, I've been happily scooting around with V1 with some added ingnition timing for years, but I have my own weighing up to do and am again talking about changing my tune (going on too long).

Thanks Ben (your turning out to be very helpful )

I like that APR is very close ( 3 mins away) the dealer is really nice and has given me quotes for other mods ect. I also like the ability to change back to stock, fault code erase and valet mode. APR made my car alot faster to begin with, but started fading as time went on, as my car adjusted i suppose.

I want the highest performance and a tune i can build upon. I want a full milltek turbo back with down pipe, TIP, Forge intercooler, Forge 008 and CAI (PD160 and K&N panel.) i know the car wont run well with the new downpipe without a tune, a tune with for some reason APR doesnt offer.

I contact viezu, they are 20 mins away, a better price and said:

We offer ongoing free stage upgrades, updates, free tweaks, free new tunes in the event you lose your file due to service centre flash update etc etc so you can't go wrong.
So yes - if you modify - we tweak the file (free) and go from there. For these, it depends on the coding type - we'll have a vPERFORMANCE level of coding, but will need to see the specific coding type before saying whether our Technical Centre can write you a vRace file for it....

Your thoughts?

[Sharkie]

Thanks Ben (your turning out to be very helpful )

I like that APR is very close ( 3 mins away) the dealer is really nice and has given me quotes for other mods ect. I also like the ability to change back to stock, fault code erase and valet mode. APR made my car alot faster to begin with, but started fading as time went on, as my car adjusted i suppose.

I want the highest performance and a tune i can build upon. I want a full milltek turbo back with down pipe, TIP, Forge intercooler, Forge 008 and CAI (PD160 and K&N panel.) i know the car wont run well with the new downpipe without a tune, a tune with for some reason APR doesnt offer.

I contact viezu, they are 20 mins away, a better price and said:

We offer ongoing free stage upgrades, updates, free tweaks, free new tunes in the event you lose your file due to service centre flash update etc etc so you can't go wrong.
So yes - if you modify - we tweak the file (free) and go from there. For these, it depends on the coding type - we'll have a vPERFORMANCE level of coding, but will need to see the specific coding type before saying whether our Technical Centre can write you a vRace file for it....

Your thoughts?

It is simply not true that a GTI with APR tune will not run well with a down pipe. I run an APR tune with a custom downpipe and a custom FMIC with no issues at all and have done so for about 5 years.

APR only boosts to 0.8 bar sustained and yet was within 5kw of the custom code tune running at 1.0 bar at the latest Brisbane dyno day ......

Not saying CC is bad, far from it, just that APR is still right up there .... I would stay away from all the other tuners out there except for GIAC.

[Transporter]

I would stay away from all the other tuners out there except for GIAC.

That's a bit unfair to say and advise, but I accept your opinion, because it's based on your amateur knowledge.

[Bflat]

Are we really going through this again?

[glidn]

Thanks Ben (your turning out to be very helpful )

I like that APR is very close ( 3 mins away) the dealer is really nice and has given me quotes for other mods ect. I also like the ability to change back to stock, fault code erase and valet mode. APR made my car alot faster to begin with, but started fading as time went on, as my car adjusted i suppose.

I want the highest performance and a tune i can build upon. I want a full milltek turbo back with down pipe, TIP, Forge intercooler, Forge 008 and CAI (PD160 and K&N panel.) i know the car wont run well with the new downpipe without a tune, a tune with for some reason APR doesnt offer.

I contact viezu, they are 20 mins away, a better price and said:

We offer ongoing free stage upgrades, updates, free tweaks, free new tunes in the event you lose your file due to service centre flash update etc etc so you can't go wrong.
So yes - if you modify - we tweak the file (free) and go from there. For these, it depends on the coding type - we'll have a vPERFORMANCE level of coding, but will need to see the specific coding type before saying whether our Technical Centre can write you a vRace file for it....

Your thoughts?

I would honestly look else where for a Turbo inlet pipe. Additionally,don't waste your money on Any Forge Diverter valves.
They require constant maintenance (owner that don't do this always has issues, seen it first hand all to many times).

Get an Audi S3 710N Diverter Valve cheap and happily holds high boost. Had mine in for almost 7 years on 21psi boost.
No issue's at all.

I have the Forge Boost hoses, so I'm basing this on ownership. Fitment is poor at best. Constantly pops off the turbo.
If I had a factory TIP (turbo inlet pipe) I would happily replace it.

Actually Ideally I would like to replace the whole lot as I have the complete Forge Boost hose kit. In short it's fitment is terrible.
I just have not found a viable solution yet for replacement.

[seangti]

Are we really going through this again?

hahaha.


Waxon - have a detailed read through the Brisbane dyno day results from last year. I think its a sticky. Forge IC may be worth reconsidering, there is quantifiable evidence to its strengths and weaknesses rather than the pee'ing contest we usually get into. The tune side of things is also explored in that thread.

I run forge TIP and DV with a superchips tune, I've never had any concern with my forge gear, though on the research and data provided chose not to get their FMIC, I went with a SeatSport core. I have read of forge DV issues, there are 2 models of DV (007 and 00, one better than another I believe, though I couldn't tell you which one I have or better/worse than another. APR DV's have also had good reviews. I regularly track my car, so it spends a reasonable amount of time under full throttle through 3rd and 4th gear. If the gear was to fail it would have by now.

APR has a sale on this month, so they may be more price competitive.

[VWindahouse]

That's a bit unfair to say and advise, but I accept your opinion, because it's based on your amateur knowledge.

Personally I expect more from a forum Super Moderator but then again he is also a forum Sponsor so the fault ultimately lies with forum Admin.

I would honestly look else where for a Turbo inlet pipe. Additionally,don't waste your money on Any Forge Diverter valves.
They require constant maintenance (owner that don't do this always has issues, seen it first hand all to many times).

Get an Audi S3 710N Diverter Valve cheap and happily holds high boost. Had mine in for almost 7 years on 21psi boost.
No issue's at all.

I have the Forge Boost hoses, so I'm basing this on ownership. Fitment is poor at best. Constantly pops off the turbo.
If I had a factory TIP (turbo inlet pipe) I would happily replace it.

Actually Ideally I would like to replace the whole lot as I have the complete Forge Boost hose kit. In short it's fitment is terrible.
I just have not found a viable solution yet for replacement.

Sorry you have had poor experiences with Forge DV and TIPS. Lucky for us Polo owners I have never seen a failure or poor performance from either product on a Polo since joining the forum 5 years ago. I see you have never owned a polo in your signature.

WaxonWaxoff we have gone to great lengths in this section of the forum to cover off all your recent questions with hard dyno proven data in various threads so please look there first as questions like this only attract egos into what is a great place to talk polo! So please look there first then talk to the tuners individually to form your own opinion and make a decision.

[noone]

You're in there now, you make your own decisions. Lots of opinions, none right or wrong.

My 2c on some comments are that I like my Forge 008, not had ANY issues, nor did I with the Forge Diverter.
As for Tuning alliances and how tunes work with a car, each car is slightly unique, weather it be a slight boost leak you wouldn't know where to find or a knock sensor being a little too sensitive, each car responds slightly differently.

The only Viezu tuned 9N3 GTI's ive read about didn't do anything interesting in terms of power. Not sure what to make of the ability to customize it infinitely, they don't code locally (UK based) if I remember correctly. Send a log, get a new file. Play. If its not acting up, there isn't that much to do, once boost is maxed, timing is as high as timing pull / detonation allows then thats about all there is... I've talked to a lot of tuners about getting more from my Polo, most say don't bother (changing from APR to another brand).

As for upgrade paths, if you're sold on a Miltek, then do it. If you can be swayed, buy a big ass turbo with that same money and get a lot more power (Advice from Bugracer).

I like the Seat / THS intercooler, cheaper and better (even Forge sell it)

Lots of opinions, there is no right and wrong, you have people who will tell you what they have is best and you have people who have years of experience (I'm neither of these, more of a keyboard warrior).

Good luck.

Feel free to keep asking, people get pissy with these threads as the question comes up frequently across all turbo models and the debates can get heated (my tune's better than your tune because X)

If you want to be told what to do, get CC. If nothing else, you can slag Gav all the time on this build thread if you don't like it!

[h100vw]

If you want to be told what to do, get CC. If nothing else, you can slag Gav all the time on this build thread if you don't like it!

That's worth from me.

Gavin