Originally Posted by
sambb
No I wouldn't get too excited there.
I may be wrong or I may have misunderstood the course of the thread so far but I'm pretty certain that if you are phase 1 and you run a de-cat you will get a cat code. You would definitely have to run a spacer to have a chance of avoiding it but still might be likely to get one even then. For example I was advised by Carformance that they sometimes even see 100 cell people get codes that are running a spacer so that suggests to me that you'd be running the gauntlet with a proper de-cat pipe. If you don't run a second o2 sensor spacer then you may be ok with a 200 cell cat (since they still represent some flow hindrance) but a 100 cell will most likely code. I was advised to go 200 cell with a spacer by Carformance to be sure.
Gav was talking about Phase 2 before which codes out the cat error so that it will be ignored by the ECU. If your on phase 2 you can have any cat you want or no cat at all and it won't matter. Phase 1 tune is expecting to see a Cat though.
My two cents.....If the ecu will throw a code when you have no cat versus when you do have a cat, then it stands to reason that there is still a significant flow difference that the prescence (or lack thereof) of a cat makes . Cats will dull dB's but they are not designed to do this so I wouldn't keep one in the system for that reason alone. If you don't have to have a cat by law, then save the dollars, run the de-cat pipe for best possible initial flow, keep the resonator in place to stop low rpm droning, and throw some money at a new high flow muffler. Yours is most likely flogged by now and a restrictive sponge compared to some really high flowing yet extremely quiet mufflers that are around now. Thats probably the cheapest way into some quiet free flowing-ness! Spend 30 bucks on the correct second 02 sensor spacer and you'll probably be lucky.
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