There's enough steering wheel control with two hands and the occasional flick down to the stick. Steering is not the point. When I say control, I'm talking about controlling the engine, gear, speed, torque, balance...
Manual
DSG
DSG, more control, hands are where they should be.
Got my licenses in manual and auto and semi auto.
Don't use my HT these days.
Progressed from ageing tech to modern tech but still dirty my hands with manual when I must.
Last edited by Candyman; 27-12-2012 at 09:25 PM.
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There's enough steering wheel control with two hands and the occasional flick down to the stick. Steering is not the point. When I say control, I'm talking about controlling the engine, gear, speed, torque, balance...
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Sounds like manual mode/paddle control.
Steering is always the point
"Can't" drive an auto, but knows a manual has better control.
This guy should talk to F1 manufacturers. They've all gone to computer control with flappy paddles - how stupid they will feel when he tells them.
Former owner of MY12 GTD with DSG
Click or tap --> MY13 CW Golf R | Manual | ACC (deleted) | 19" Black Talladegas (sold) | Satnav-Dynaudio
APR Stage 2+ w/RFD | Autotech HPFP | IE CAI + BSH Heat Shield | NPC Clutch + SMF | HPX 3" TBE | CTS FMIC | VWR Short Shifter | Comp Haldex | Uprated Engine Mounts | MCA Red Suspension | HP Superpro LCA/ALK/Ball Joints | Superpro Rear Bushes | AP Racing BBK | P3 Gauge | 16% tint
Track wheels: 18x8 ET45 Enkei Racing PF01 | Tyres: 245/40R18 Yokohama Advan A050 Soft | Street: 245/35R19 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S
Sorry. When you said "Manual. Full Stop" I thought you were indicating that you were talking in absolutes i.e. without qualification. I didn't realise you were restricting your comment to Golfs only. Then you then went on to talk about "auto", where this thread is about Manual vs DSG. So I figured you were widening the discussion.
So, you've driven a DSG?
Former owner of MY12 GTD with DSG
This thread is about mk6 golfs. I answered the questions Lucas posed: Mine is manual. Why? Because it gives me more control. Yes, I've driven the DSG many times. I consider it an automatic.
No one can seriously argue that a MT in a mk6 Golf doesn't give the driver more control over the vehicle than a DSG.
Click or tap --> MY13 CW Golf R | Manual | ACC (deleted) | 19" Black Talladegas (sold) | Satnav-Dynaudio
APR Stage 2+ w/RFD | Autotech HPFP | IE CAI + BSH Heat Shield | NPC Clutch + SMF | HPX 3" TBE | CTS FMIC | VWR Short Shifter | Comp Haldex | Uprated Engine Mounts | MCA Red Suspension | HP Superpro LCA/ALK/Ball Joints | Superpro Rear Bushes | AP Racing BBK | P3 Gauge | 16% tint
Track wheels: 18x8 ET45 Enkei Racing PF01 | Tyres: 245/40R18 Yokohama Advan A050 Soft | Street: 245/35R19 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S
Our GTI is a manual. Love it. So much better than the auto.
1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro
OK. Now I'm confused.
I'm still struggling to understand how somebody who "can't drive an automatic" knows that a manual gives the driver better control. Based on what experience? I own a manual sports car and a DSG Golf, and I drive them both hard.
To me, the only downside to the DSG is that I can't put my hand on the gearstick and figure out which gear I'm in - I need the display on the dash. Other than that, the gearchanges in the DSG (using the paddles on the wheel) are so much faster and crisper that it's no contest - decide to change, and it happens. No lifting the throttle, no balking of synchros, no danger of missed gear changes.
The DSG is a different driving experience - there is no doubt about that. Are you sure you tried hard enough to learn how to drive it properly?
Former owner of MY12 GTD with DSG
What is amusing here is the discussion moving from what do you have to which is better. Waste of time really as it has the same amount of credibility as which colour is better or worse ( we all know RB is better ) Technically the DSG is far superior than the manual, provides a better power delivery, smoother ride and quicker. The Manual is a different experience and for the purists that like that sot of thing and feeling involved and a level of rev control in the process, given that the car all but drives itself due to the amount of tech built in all power to you.
My guess and that is all it is, that the majority of manual owners don't live in Sydney, the constant porridge stirring required of the gear box in the ridiculous traffic we have is just not worth the fleeting opportunity you might have to "be in control" of a performance car. For the rest of us the DSG is like the rest of the car , a perfect compromise.
Now back to normal programming
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