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At the request of several members, I have spent over an hour deleting posts and editing posts in this thread to clean it up so it can be resurrected and unlocked.
How long it stays unlocked is entirely up to you guys. If the discussion ends up like it did previously we will come down on you hard with infractions and possible time off depending on the infractions.
If you post here, you agree to these rules:
*You will not receive a warning, so make sure you've and understand them.
*DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT PRICING OF LOCAL Products/Resellers/Distributors/Companies. Even if the product is double the cost in Australia than it is in the USA! So was the Volkswagen you just bought! Deal with it!
Or, if you think that you can do better, then get off the interwebs and do something! Anyone who complains will receive an infraction of such magnitude that you'll have enough of a break from this site to get a good start on setting up your own business.
In the end, there is no company that makes a product for which there is no competitor. If you don't want to spend what one company is asking for their product, then purchase from the competitor(s). If one companies products cost more without any reason, then the market will sort itself out - that's how a competitive market works.
*DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRICE OF INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING. If you don't like the costs of the courier options, check the mail options. If you still don't like it, then move to the USA/UK/Europe and/or start your own courier company. Just like above, if you think you know better, then do something about it.
*This is not the place to ask someone to do a group buy and then for 10 more people to come along and say +1. If you want a group buy on a product and there isn't one in progress, then go and organise it. If the product isn't exciting enough for you to be bothered, then no one else would probably be bothered either.
*This is not the place to complain about issues with your car. There are already multiple threads for that.
*If you want more information on an accessory, and there is a dedicated thread for it, please go to the dedicated thread.
*Do not post just to tell us that "your x device has arrived". No one cares. Unless of course you're going to post pictures/installation instructions/feedback on the quality and usage of the product.
*Do not start in-depth discussions about warranty. Look up the well documented warranty impacts elsewhere.
*Do not ridicule people for their purchases. Other people probably think your purchases suck too.
*Do not give your opinion on a product unless you actually have tried the product.
*Do not joke about corporate espionage.
*Do not claim to know the reason the internet was created.
*Do not claim to be a financial wizard. There is no place for anything financial in this thread.
*Do not talk about which way you drive home from the dealership.
*Do not talk about Google Maps.
There is also a few disclaimers:
*Posting prices for items is fine, but keep in mind that these will change over time.
*Product specs may change during their lifetime
*It is your responsibility to ensure any items you purchase after following links/info from this thread is about applicable to your car and any effects the item may have on your car.
*Similarly to the above, make sure you investigate and understand what exactly is included in the purchase of your product. It's not always just a physical item. When comparing two products, make sure the scope of what is included in the price is the same.
*And finally, just like above, it is your responsibility to install the accessories or arrange, and probably pay, for someone to install it for you. Which gets me to the next section...
If you purchase parts from other sources, your dealer and other companies may or may not chose to install it. This shouldn't be a surprise, it's not just the automotive industry where this occurs and should be understandable to people why:
*There is a certain profit margin in the goods which is lost if the customer supplies them
*With so many part numbers for seemingly the same item, variations of the same item, and regional versions, and "copies" of items available, a company can only ensure they're receiving what is expected if they procure it themsevles through official channels
*This procurement through official channels also ensures all the "additional" parts are included (installation parts such as screws, facias etc etc), manuals, DVDs whatever is relevant etc
*They cannot cover the warranty on an item that they do not acquire (obviously)
*But where the above causes issues is when things don't "work" during the installation. This can cause a grey area or issue. Is it the part, is it the installation? etc
In other word, please keep in mind that dealers and VW specialists will have, and are entitiled to, their own policies about what they will and won't install if a customer acquires their products from a 3rd party. So if you are purchasing something but need someone else to install it for you, please confirm that your dealer or local VW specialist will do this work before purchasing the parts to avoid any upset!
If you do not agree, or do not understand, or cannot be bothered reading the above and agreeing to the rules, THEN DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD.
Originally Posted by reaction
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