WARNING - Do NOT put a pen in the Car manual compartment in the glovebox!

[Maverick]

Some people are absolute morons.. read the manual to use the glove box.. I love it.

Reading the manual when you get the car is a good idea, no one said you have to read the manual to use the glovebox but the manual will warn you of any areas to pay attention to along with how to operate the various features in the car.

And you can put a pen in the glovebox but you can't stick it up in the very top of the glovebox (in the manual holder) where it's open. No car has a full sealed glovebox and they all have areas where items can fall inside the dash.

The morons are those that don't read their manual.

[Treza360]

So you lend your car to a family member or friend, should you have to explain to them how to use the glovebox and/or to be careful of the glovebox. Also should they have to read the manual before they use it?
Maybe a training course should be in order before they drive the car with a test and certification sign off before they drive the car?
They put stickers warning about airbags and other features of the car to be careful of everywhere. If they feel they have to put something in the manual about this there should be a sticker in the glovebox as well.

However a GTI is not a supercar or something unique and special. It's a hot hatch that's meant to be used everyday by anyone with minimal fuss and bother. Having to have something written in the manual about something that should be as simple and foolproof as a glovebox only proves that this is a serious design flaw or at the worst intentional stupidity on behalf of Volkswagen.

Not aiming this at anyone in particular but if you can't admit that and think otherwise you are obviously so blinkered and biased towards VW that you think they can do no wrong. Of course that's my opinion and others are entitled to theirs.

Cheers,
Trent

[brad]

. No car has a full sealed glovebox and they all have areas where items can fall inside the dash..

That's a big call Mav.

Seriously, I haven't noticed a potential for disaster in the Octavia glovebox. And as i previously stated, there's a pen holder on the lid (and a business card/note pad holder). Why is it the budget brand appears to be so much more logical & better appointed. Oh, and the glovebox is air conditioned too.

Somewhat amused that a discussion about a glove box has run to five pages.

[McDub]

So you lend your car to a family member or friend, should you have to explain to them how to use the glovebox and/or to be careful of the glovebox. Also should they have to read the manual before they use it?
Maybe a training course should be in order before they drive the car with a test and certification sign off before they drive the car?
They put stickers warning about airbags and other features of the car to be careful of everywhere. If they feel they have to put something in the manual about this there should be a sticker in the glovebox as well.

However a GTI is not a supercar or something unique and special. It's a hot hatch that's meant to be used everyday by anyone with minimal fuss and bother. Having to have something written in the manual about something that should be as simple and foolproof as a glovebox only proves that this is a serious design flaw or at the worst intentional stupidity on behalf of Volkswagen.

Not aiming this at anyone in particular but if you can't admit that and think otherwise you are obviously so blinkered and biased towards VW that you think they can do no wrong. Of course that's my opinion and others are entitled to theirs.

Cheers,
Trent

well said.

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[REXman]

The morons are those that don't read their manual.

Yeah, right.

[Cossor]

Not mentioned here are problems caused by children.
Kids place all sorts of things where we do not expect it.
Like coins placed into the slot of the CD player (And in older computers, the floppy disk slot)
Toyota has seen fit to place a warning label on current Corolla cars, in plain sight, that the car radio does NOT have a touch screen.
VW could have done the same on predelivery cars, especially where caution is required!
Will be interested to see if my car when delivered has suitable protection.

[Cossor]

Added thoughts to previous post
Re the car dealer, where a possible problem could occur, should not the dealer be aware?
Wher the dealer is carefully shows all the bells and whistles on delivery, should not the dealer also convey due caution?
In other words, it is also the dealers responsibility to read the instruction manual.

[hooba]

[Frankenstrat]

The morons are those that don't read their manual.

Yeah, right.

I had to look up something in my manual yesterday. Does that make me less of a moron? Have I edged imperceptibly closer to 'genius' status? I could include it on my CV: Fully conversant with Page 211 of the Golf manual.

Maybe it's time to lock this thread and throw away the key.

[Corey_R]

I can appreciate Maverick's frustration.

Like myself, he has over 2500 posts, with a decent percentage directly answering questions that the members of these forums post. Many of the questions I answer every day, are covered in the manual. By the time you answer the same question 20 times for new members that have come to our forums, and that question is answered in the manual, it can become very frustrating.

As I've said many times before, these cars have become quite complex and after owning Japanese cars all my life and purchasing my first VW I was amazed at all the features my Golf GTI had that I would have never of known about if it had not been for reading the manual. If you've owned european cars before in recent years, maybe the jump isn't as big. If you've owned other VW's before, maybe you can fumble your way through. But there's even large differences between even my MY08 Polo GTI and my MY08 Golf GTI....

So I see the topic RTFM as being two fold:
1) If you don't read the manual, you're bound to need to ask a question here that has been answered 20 times already!
2) If you don't read the manual, you're bound to be missing out on some cool features and the full benefit of a car that you've just spent $30k to $70k on (depending on model and options).

So whilst I personally wouldn't call someone a moron for not reading the manual, I do struggle to understand why someone would spend so much money on an item and NOT be interested in understanding how it all operates and how to take full advantage of what it has to offer. To me it just seems like a bit of a waste when you consider how long it takes the average person to save up that $30k to $70k in comparison to how long it takes to read the manual