So the Golf doesn't have a pen holder on the lid of the glovebox? & a clip next to it to hold shopper dockets, business cards, etc? You guys have been severely ripped.
Thinking about things, much of this is really nothing new. The globebox is just like a kitchen drawer, there are obviously gaps around the edges etc and it's unsealed, that's what gives it the ability to open and close etc. The issue in a car, is that bumps can make things bounce, and not necessarily come down in the same place they were put, and hence get outside the 'tray' of the globebox. I remember this happening to my dad when I was a kid.
I guess the surprise to me about this, is that the pen was then able to end up in the aircon system.
So the Golf doesn't have a pen holder on the lid of the glovebox? & a clip next to it to hold shopper dockets, business cards, etc? You guys have been severely ripped.
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Last edited by Highlander; 16-06-2010 at 06:09 PM.
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The manual may say not to do it, but the purpose of a glove box is for storage of items, and if a normal item in your glove box causes damage, then you could argue that the glove box is not designed in a way that is "fit for purpose"
A clause in the manual saying not to put small items in the glove box does not really avoid liability, rather all it does is admit VW knew of the design flaw, and in a sense makes them liable.
Your reasoning that "well they went to the trouble of writing it in the manual therefore there must be a need for the hole" is not justification for designing it that way. It clearly was just the easiest cheapest way of putting in the required vent, OR the design flaw was discovered it was designed and built. The manuals are finished AFTER the design process.
A pretty gray one if you ask me, and i wouldn't be happy if the dealership did not offer warranty on that.
Personally, I dont think all people who buy a car will read the manual for gods sake. Thats ludicrous. I read it, and I probably read it twice cause Im a bit of an egg like that and it interests me. But it should be expected, that a glove box, can handle, and stow away a pen with no problems and possible damage to your air con system.
And its a bit much for someone to be expected to have read the manual cover to cover. Even I might skim over the storage compartments section.
If its that badly designed (which it sounds like it is), there should be a nice warning label all over it.
I think any reasonable person would feel the same.
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well i do sympethaise with the dealer having to fork out money, but they're the one who sold you the product in the first place. If the customers claim is legally valid, and yet the head office refuses to offer warranty, then that's not the customers problem, that's the dealers problem to sort out.
The way i see it, sure it may put a disclaimer in the manual, but disclaimers are not very legally binding most of the time. Use a bit of common sense here, a glove box should never require an operation manual to use. It is a storage compartment that is very often used by passengers... should buyers of VW cars have to ask each passenger who gets in their car to read the compartment operational manual before entering? I surely hope not. They should not be designed that way, BUT if VW choose to design it that way because there is only a small chance of the problem arising, then they should warrant any repairs as a result when it does happen on the rare occasion. At least that is my humble opinion.
Not really, Volkswagen has determined that this is not a valid warranty job and that's that. The dealer isn't in a position to pay for the repair (although they do have a goodwill allowance) and IMO they shouldn't.
Putting a pen in the glovebox is not a problem. What is a problem is sticking a pen into the area at the top of the glovebox. These are two very different uses of the glovebox. Would you shove your pen into the AC outlet because a pen will fit in there nicely, just like a holder? The glovebox is fit for purpose and it's clear in the manual that you can't stick anything in the manual area.The way i see it, sure it may put a disclaimer in the manual, but disclaimers are not very legally binding most of the time. Use a bit of common sense here, a glove box should never require an operation manual to use. It is a storage compartment that is very often used by passengers... should buyers of VW cars have to ask each passenger who gets in their car to read the compartment operational manual before entering? I surely hope not. They should not be designed that way, BUT if VW choose to design it that way because there is only a small chance of the problem arising, then they should warrant any repairs as a result when it does happen on the rare occasion. At least that is my humble opinion.
Volkswagen produced a manual and all owners should read this, if they don't well that's their problem.
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