VW Scirocco for Australia. Any Golf R buyers thinking of swapping?

[MurphyTheElf]

original hatch wasn't 5 doors. hatch is suppose to be 3 doors.

IF you need a 5 door car because of kids or because you need to put stuff in the back? buy a sedan. 3 doors over 5 doors anyday.

Does a sedan allow me to easily carry passengers in the back seats and a dog in the boot? Certainly not legally. A 5-door hatch gives me a small car with the convenience of a much larger vehicle.

The hatchback was never conceived as a 3-door-only contraption. To state otherwise is absurd.

The door is not "said" to be longer, it is a fact that it is longer. 5 doors actually make both doors to small for the car, if you don't need the extra 2 doors majority of the time, there is really no point getting 5 doors.

Yes, the doors are shorter on a 5-door. Much easier to open in tight garages and carparks, and much easier to load the back seat.

I'm not attacking the 3-door, since there are some advantages, but convenience is not one of them.

[Jasonpb]

Does a sedan allow me to easily carry passengers in the back seats and a dog in the boot? Certainly not legally. A 5-door hatch gives me a small car with the convenience of a much larger vehicle.

The hatchback was never conceived as a 3-door-only contraption. To state otherwise is absurd.



Yes, the doors are shorter on a 5-door. Much easier to open in tight garages and carparks, and much easier to load the back seat.

I'm not attacking the 3-door, since there are some advantages, but convenience is not one of them.

I got a 5 door and a 3 door though it's the new polo that's the 5 door so a smaller car, to be frank it's easier getting people into the back of the R than into the rear of the polo and a few people have commented how easy it was to get into the rear of the R which surprised them. I often hit my knees on the back of the seat getting into the polo, still the space is rather impressive for a small car.

I will agree that the larger doors can be a pain in tight spots but it has to be a pretty tight spot to annoy me in which case the 5 door will probably have the same issue.

[guest12345]

What a load.. if the arguement is going to be "if you want xxx then go buy a xxx.." If you want a 2 door go buy an mx5.. does that make any more sense..?

I have no issue with 3 door hatchbacks just havnt read the rulebook that indicates what the definition of a hatch is supposed to be it appears

Well it is only my opinion that people with a family should get a sedan if budget allow it. If i have kids i wouldn't be getting a golf. My opinion of a hatch back is 3 doors, it is a small car and not a people mover, the 2 seats in the back for me is just take people occasionally, the 2 back seats aren't exactly the most comfortable for 4 adults.

Does a sedan allow me to easily carry passengers in the back seats and a dog in the boot? Certainly not legally. A 5-door hatch gives me a small car with the convenience of a much larger vehicle.

The hatchback was never conceived as a 3-door-only contraption. To state otherwise is absurd.



Yes, the doors are shorter on a 5-door. Much easier to open in tight garages and carparks, and much easier to load the back seat.

I'm not attacking the 3-door, since there are some advantages, but convenience is not one of them.

Hence why i said if you don't need it, you should go for 3 doors. If you have a dog and have to take passengers there is a need for 5 doors. What i said was the hatch was originally designed to be 3 doors, it was originally designed as a small car.

I have nothing against 5 doors, all i'm saying is 3 doors is my preference and the hatch is better suited as a 3 door.

[Mr_Bob]

If i was in charge at VW, the Scirocco R would be AWD, which means no need for a Golf R.
While the Scirocco is still FWD, i don't regret my purchase at all!

[ethosguy]

IF you need a 5 door car because of kids or because you need to put stuff in the back? buy a sedan. 3 doors over 5 doors anyday.

...more pfft...sedans are as much of an anathena to performance as FWD?..a 3 door hatch for one person...
Buy a motorbike, lol.
5 door hatch to carry people (esp. kids).
A wagon to go anywhere out of town with 'em.
FWD if you want to go backwards (IMO, lol)...in comming rounds...not everyone likes FWD either...
FWD merit is good packaging and low manufacturing cost & good efficiency. I reckon 'Sicrocco' is (and always has been) a marketing exploit of a Golf platform. German hairdresser car...strong emphasis on style.
Given my druthers I'd be ticking 3 door R but I out lived that life phase so I'll take a 5 door one, thanks.
Or a RWD, 3dr Scirocco or better still, one with AWD, RS32.5 5 pot & brakes...ahhh a good looking TTRS...parts bin manufacturing.
Somehow I doubt VW will be so accommodating. Maybe a Hot Tuna; Guy project car???

[ethosguy]

it was originally designed as a small car.

Yeh, it was a small car...quite middle weight these days...

[Corey_R]

This topic has already been debated to death in older threads, but for all the newbies who are instantly discounting this stuff as "a load"...

The front door on a 3 door hatchback is significantly longer. Whilst some view this as a bad thing (if someone parks too close to you in a car park for example), it moves the B pillar back further.

My major complaint of the Golf and Polo (including new Polo) in 5 door form is that the B Pillar is too far forward, meaning you need to basically lean forward to look around it when looking left and right. There are so many pictures on the web which show that this isn't just my issue, but I think in a way people who are used to 5 door hatchbacks must just be used to it, since it doesn't bother them. But I cannot stand it. Even when I'm looking straight forward, the B pillar of a 5 door hatch is in my peripheral vision. It's silly.

I'm currently driving a 5 door Ford Focus hatchback, and this B pillar issue isn't nearly as bad. But then, the rear door is smaller on the Focus than on the Golf.

The other thing which doesn't affect me, cause I'm only 5'10", but the 5 door version of the new Polo is more difficult to get into the drivers seat for someone tall. I had to laugh at the difficulty my 6'5" workmate had getting into the 5 door Polo GTI at the motorshow. This was after having no issues getting into the 3 door Trendline Polo. He needs to have the seat back a lot further than I, and therefore he's actually having to climb in AROUND the B Pillar of the 5 door. He doesn't have the issue looking left or right though, because his head is COMPLETELY BEHIND the B Pillar. But this creates other even more dangerous vision issues. He actually loves the new Polo, but he could only consider a 3 door because of this.

But in any case, just because it's not your opinion, SilvrFoxX, does mean someone else's opinion is "a load". Lets not drag this thread down to the point where I have to start handing out infractions.

[Corey_R]

Lol Dermot. Yeah, it's so totally comes down to that sometimes.

It used to frustrating the hell out of me back in the Golf R 3/5 Door thread, when someone would come along and say "VGA should get rid of the Golf GTI/R 3 Door and bring the Scirocco instead". It's like, no way! Just because one person likes something more/needs something specific/whatever, doesn't mean that everyone else should think the same way.

People should just respect each others likes/needs/whatever more.

Each car has its place.
If you like 5 door hatchbacks, great.
If you like 3 door hatchbacks, great.
If you like the Scirocco more than the Golf, well that's great too.

But don't assume that everyone else thinks the same as you, and don't assume that you're RIGHT. Because when it comes to likes/needs, no one is wrong or right.

[Lams]

The Scirocco would be great if you already have something else as the practical car.

But I reckon our Eos could carry more than the Scirocco with the roof up, and we can lower the roof to carry tall things like grandfather clocks. Looking good is not cheap!

[Converted]

Oprah should give away Scirocco Rs to her audience while she's down under.