VW Scirocco for Australia. Any Golf R buyers thinking of swapping?

**REXman** · 23-04-2011, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by kevvie

Volkswagen - The new Scirocco

This is really interesting. Last month I traded up to a new Golf GTI, I said to the sales guy I would hold off if the Scirocco was likely to come to Oz. He said he had dinner with the VW Aust MD the night before and there was no way it was ever coming to Australia. She is the person quoted in the article.

Goes to prove the saying, never trust a car salesman.

I feel your pain completely. When I bought one of my first brand news cars, it was a MY03 WRX down at brookvale. When I went in I told the guy look I want a WRX but have always wanted a club spec car, cause it doesnt cost too much more and you get some cool options on it. He said to me they are not releasing it in this body style (MY03 WRX). We went ahead and did the paper work on the normal WRX with tints, Ming and sunroof.

Next week I was going down the main road (Pittwater?) and what was in the showroom window? A ****EN MY03 WRX Club Spec.. Dont get me started. Like anyone in life, you always get dogs -so If you find a good one - stick with them!!

Originally Posted by PepsiMax_88

To the people earlier discussing about 3 door v 5 door Golf's, this is my opinion on the matter

now some people would be saying "why you getting a 5 door?" well for me, spending nearly $60,000 on a car, I want to get the maximum amount of use out of it, for many years to come and the 5 door option would allow me to have a smart practical car now, and it would also allow me to have a practical car when I start a family and the car would also hold its valve over a long term,

TBH I thought the same thing when I bought the car, and it is justified what you are saying. Im a bit older but not too much (29), and bought this car in 5 door for the fact that it will serve me for a long time being a 5-door and all.

But in saying that, i rarely have more than one person in the car, they are the same car and size at the end of the day.. and the 3-door is cooler. I know that all the tuners in germany are actually If I wanted space legitimately I should of bought an SS wagon or something. Off topic: I bought the DSG cause its more economical as well and thought now maybe i should have gotten manual anyway despite the 0-100 times..

The VW R is definitely a fantastic car for the money, and 5-doors and AWD will never be a bad proposition

Originally Posted by dasrattles

just curious, does it really make a difference where the vehicle is assembled? don't get me wrong, i'd still very much like my cars to be assembled in Germany.

Im not sure if there is any difference tbh

I believe the new POLO 77TSI 5 door is made in South Africa, and I can first hand say it is a fantastic car that lives up to the hype! Build has been spot on and no issues Im aware of yet.

But in saying that I have "heard" that the MKV GTI's did in fact have some different qualities between the South African (5-door?)and German Built (3-Door?) cars..

That last point is just what i have been told by 2 different people - Im sure others can chime in on how accurate that is

**SilvrFoxX** · 23-04-2011, 05:36 PM

Only 12....

**Ideo** · 24-04-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by triode12

Sigh, it is getting tiresome having to justify what I write. So I'll put an end to this, by asking you to take a read of this book. It answers a lot of questions.

Volkswagen Golf GTI, James Richardson - Shop Online for Books in Australia - Fishpond.com.au

Once you are acquainted with the history of the GTI, you'll understand why.

I just think that it is a very narrow (pointlessly so) definition.

It also ignores seminal hot hatches like the Talbot Sunbeam (RWD) and the car that came before the GTI but was definately a hot hatch, the BMW 2002tii Touring.

**triode12** · 24-04-2011, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ideo

I just think that it is a very narrow (pointlessly so) definition.

It also ignores seminal hot hatches like the Talbot Sunbeam (RWD) and the car that came before the GTI but was definately a hot hatch, the BMW 2002tii Touring.

Like I said that GTI is considered incorrectly as the father of all hot hatches but it is the template by which they are pegged against (industry included).

BTW, the Talbolt and BMW is were also 3Drs.

**Ideo** · 24-04-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by triode12

Like I said that GTI is considered incorrectly as the father of all hot hatches but it is the template by which they are pegged against (industry included).

BTW, the Talbolt and BMW is were also 3Drs.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was disagreeing with the assessment of what a hot hatch was!

**haza** · 25-04-2011, 03:51 PM

Accordingly to the Sydney Morning Herald drive section April22-24,2011 it is reported(quoting Anke Koeckler) that the Scirocco coupe will "go on sale in the first quarter of next year"(2012).Further it states"The three-door version of the Golf R will be pensioned off to make way for the newcomer",pricing similar to the three-door Golf R"well above the Golf GTI.
I have to wonder why VW introduced the three-door Golf R only to have to "pension"it off so soon?Was this a quick buck exercise before the known introduction later of the Scirocco?Would I feel a tad peeved if I had bought a 3 door Golf R?Perhaps.

**AdamD** · 25-04-2011, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by haza

I have to wonder why VW introduced the three-door Golf R only to have to "pension"it off so soon?Was this a quick buck exercise before the known introduction later of the Scirocco?Would I feel a tad peeved if I had bought a 3 door Golf R?Perhaps.

I suspect you're reading a bit much into this. VW wasn't initially planning to bring the 3-door R to Australia at all, but vocal criticism of that plan by potential customers (including many from this forum) forced them to reconsider. No doubt the Scirocco falls into the same basket - not initially planned for import, but specific market pressures have swayed them. And they've no doubt looked at the number of sales of 3-door Rs as a percentage of the total, and decided to save some coin by dropping it (as they now have another model thet they can claim as a legitimate alternative for the majority of potential buyers).

**SilvrFoxX** · 25-04-2011, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by AdamD

I suspect you're reading a bit much into this. VW wasn't initially planning to bring the 3-door R to Australia at all, but vocal criticism of that plan by potential customers (including many from this forum) forced them to reconsider. No doubt the Scirocco falls into the same basket - not initially planned for import, but specific market pressures have swayed them. And they've no doubt looked at the number of sales of 3-door Rs as a percentage of the total, and decided to save some coin by dropping it (as they now have another model thet they can claim as a legitimate alternative for the majority of potential buyers).

Cause the 5 door is better...