VW rated 3rd worst in most reliable car makers list

[hoi polloi]

Yeah but we pay a premium for a worse product??
Sure I think VW drivers are often enthusiasts so can be picky and lets face it who gets on a forum and raves about their Hyundai Getz or Toyota Corolla.
VW could use it as a wake up perhaps...................

That's right - I once owned a Toyota Corolla and it ran like a swiss watch until the day I traded it in... The problem with it was it was as boring to drive as can be - this being long after tightening emissions standards killed off the Corollas with more exciting (read powerful) engines at least...

People just fell asleep when I told them I went 130,000km of driving mainly on city and suburban Sydney roads on the first set of brake pads... So no, nothing really interesting about it whatsoever...

Regards,
- Anthony.

[NiekSavio]

VW has been the leading brand in Europe for many years and if the product was really that bad then why are sales going through the roof after all these years? I think it's more a case of Euro bashing once again. Sure, all car makes have problems and VW is not exempted from that.

[Mk6 GTI]

Sadly.. my mk4 gave me hell so i can see where they could be coming from..

I really hope this GTI proves to be the opposite or i dont think i will ever get one again..

I do agree about the jap cars being a bore to drive.

Id would still rather be in VW

[Corey_R]

Sadly.. my mk4 gave me hell so i can see where they could be coming from..

Yeah - I had a friend who got a MK4 when it first game out. It spent the majority of the first 4 months in the dealer having numerous issues (mostly electrical) being resolved.

In the end the MK4 ended up being considered a very reliable and well built car. So it must've just taken them a while to figure things out or something

[Coxy09]

I see they say nothing about Alfa romeo, must be cause they are so good

[nau]

Yeah - I had a friend who got a MK4 when it first game out.

I have to say if my Golf6 will be the same as my Golf4 was I will be more thn happy

had no major issues with my 4 ... few minor fuk ups but over all it was fantastic

but yeh on a topic ... would be really nice to see methodology for the "test"

[Coaster]

Ford & Mazda, BMW & Mini have shared the same tech for many years, yet achieve completely different results.
I've seen Mazda come out on top of similar surveys, yet are 8th last in this survey. For example:

Mazda wins JD Power’s 2009 Australian Vehicle Ownership Satisfaction Study

http://www.theautoindustrieblog.com/...ustralian.html
This clearly demonstrates that using the US survey to gain an understanding of Australian vehicles is a waste of time.
Also interesting to note in the Aus survey is that MB, Peugeot, VW & Suzuki were included in the survey but not ranked due to the small sample size.

[Frankenstrat]

You should be very cautious when it comes to survey results. Usually they are taken from a small population and can be skewed by the people conducting the survey.

An example: Channel 7 state on Today Tonight that "95% of people support..." whatever.

That's 95% of people who:
a) view Channel 7 in that capital city
b) watch Today Tonight
c) could be bothered responding to the phone-in survey

It proves nothing.

In my household, 50% drive white cars
100% drive non-Australian cars
100% have 5-door cars

What can you deduce from that? Not much really. But supposing those results were published: "100% of Australians in a survey drive imported 5-door cars".

[markwid]

That's right - I once owned a Toyota Corolla and it ran like a swiss watch until the day I traded it in... The problem with it was it was as boring to drive as can be

The boring bit is a real problem for Toyota - it took a long time and a change of guard at the top to recognize the issue. I believe the new Toyota chief has stated that new Toyota cars are to be designed to be exciting to drive.

[Corey_R]

The boring bit is a real problem for Toyota - it took a long time and a change of guard at the top to recognize the issue. I believe the new Toyota chief has stated that new Toyota cars are to be designed to be exciting to drive.

Well I guess not being able to stop your car from accelerating is one way to get the heart racing