VW Golf Mk6 Wheels Car of the Year

[Highlander]

Yes, it is, but it was prefaced.

I think that there needs to be a proper analytical approach to results of these tests.

Really, international car of the year tends to be more balanced, despite not being inclusive of local AU car models.

Prefaced or not, cynical or not, VW must have very deep pockets and must put supplements in lots and lots of international motoring mags.

I recall that the Golf Mk VI was also awarded World Car of the Year,

http://www.autospies.com/news/NEW-YO...-Honors-42871/

[Nath]

I wont get into what you inferring there but will comment on VW itself. From memory after they finish 'aquiring' Porshe later this year or next the VW group will be the largest motoring group in the world, so if this is true then I'd have to say yes they do have deep pockets.

[Highlander]

I wont get into what you inferring there but will comment on VW itself. From memory after they finish 'aquiring' Porshe later this year or next the VW group will be the largest motoring group in the world, so if this is true then I'd have to say yes they do have deep pockets.

Inferring nothing other than expressing my cynicism of Mikinoz's cynicism.

We drove many cars last year before buying our Golf and in my opinion, the Golf has won the award on its merits.

For the cynics, nominate something within the price reach of the average motorist that comes anywhere near the Golf "range" for quality, driveability and value and just as importantly "feel".

After purchasing her Golf, my daughter who runs her own business and employs 10+ staff commented somewhat tongue in cheek, "Order and dignity has now been restored to the carpark"

[mikinoz]

Ha, a good conspiracy theory never hurt anyone.

It is a deserving winner, but I just think that there needs to be a bit of perspective given when there is so much riding on these awards, and there are many external factors that leads the reviewers to conclusions they do. Possibly I have been in sales too long, but I know simply if a supplier is good to me (ie. free samples etc) I am normally more loyal to them that another similar supplier.

No doubt you would all be happy with the MKVI if it were not COTY, so this really is a pointless external affirmation of what you all already know by buying/driving one.

[Highlander]

Ha, a good conspiracy theory never hurt anyone.

It is a deserving winner, but I just think that there needs to be a bit of perspective given when there is so much riding on these awards, and there are many external factors that leads the reviewers to conclusions they do. Possibly I have been in sales too long, but I know simply if a supplier is good to me (ie. free samples etc) I am normally more loyal to them that another similar supplier.

No doubt you would all be happy with the MKVI if it were not COTY, so this really is a pointless external affirmation of what you all already know by buying/driving one.

Exactly, I have known all along that it was the best thing available in 2009 for our purpose.

Actually I could have saved all those journalists a heap of driving and a heap of writing if they had just called me first.

No wonder you are cynical though if free samples are enough to keep your business, I tend to prefer service from my suppliers.

[mikinoz]

No wonder you are cynical though if free samples are enough to keep your business, I tend to prefer service from my suppliers.

Sadly in IT as in car sales, my suppliers are all the same in service, non existent most of the time sadly (hence they are similar, albeit for the added value). There is the odd exception now and then that you hold on to when you find and continue to work with.

But we are talking about journalists here, not me, and they are known well before now to be up for an easy 'article' (read press release) for an easy 1000 words piece.

I should add that I got an SMS on the day that this was announced advising me that the Golf had won COTY. Did anyone else get it? I don't know where it originated, I assumed a dealer/VWA?

[cktsi]

i am not disputing that mk6 is deserving of the award. All i am saying is that mk5 range is not that much of a quality step down so why did it not win?

Both mk5 gti and gt were segment leaders in their time so why didnt they get a wheels award when those specific models were released?

I can only rationalise it by assuming they evaluate an entire range of cars on first release rather than an individual model.

If timing of gti and gt release prevented mk5 winning the award i can somewhat reluctantly accept that. But unfortunately it leaves a legendary car like mk5 not officially recognised by such a sought after award

oh i bought a copy of wheels mag today like any self respecting golf nut would

[Corey_R]

Both mk5 gti and gt were segment leaders in their time so why didnt they get a wheels award when those specific models were released?

I can only rationalise it by assuming they evaluate an entire range of cars on first release rather than an individual model.

That's correct, it's the entire range of Golf that won the award, not a specific car. Same for the World Car Awards, Drive.com.au awards, etc etc

Just like they were considering the Mercedes E Class, which they said ranges from $80k to $200k+ with many different engine choices.

So the MKV wasn't worthy of the award. The MKV GTI was brilliant, and won many class awards, as did the R32, but the MKV wasn't good enough across the entire range to win the overall award - hence it never did.

[G-rig]

So the MKV wasn't worthy of the award. The MKV GTI was brilliant, and won many class awards, as did the R32, but the MKV wasn't good enough across the entire range to win the overall award - hence it never did.

Yes it was, they are almost the same anyway but VW as a brand has really taken off in the last few years, as mentioned above they were just being released end of 2004.

[Corey_R]

Yes it was, they are almost the same anyway but VW as a brand has really taken off in the last few years, as mentioned above they were just being released end of 2004.

I'm sorry, I completely disagree!!!

The 1.4L Turbo-only and the 1.4L Turbo-supercharged motors are MILES better than the 1.6L NA and the 2.0L NA motors respectively from the original MKV. Also, equipment levels are better compared to the 2004 MKV's. And finally regardless of opinion on the interior or exterior styling between the MKV and MK6, the fact that the 2004 MKV had HUGE SECTIONS OF BLACK PLASTIC in the rear, and the door handles, the door bump strips and mirrors etc, and the MK6 has all of them colour coded, is a BIG DEAL to the average consumer.

Between MUCH better engines, better equipment levels (not huge diffs as stock, but still diffs), and MUCH better appearance even if it is just due to the colour coding, you are simply delusional if you think that the MKV as a series in 2004 compares to the MK6 as a series right now.

Debate the MKV GTI vs the MK6 GTI all you want, because I agree, the differences between those two cars are not significant. But the differences between the 2004 MKV 1.6L and the 2009 MK6 90TSI are BIG. And that is why the MK6 series has been given awards all over the world yet the MKV series did not.