TSI squeal noise problem on acceleration

[MaccaTSI]

Only now are the EVO's and GTR's catching up to VW Tech.

So true, Germans are so far ahead and don't think you'll be better off with one of those $140k GTRs. After they came out there were heaps of stories about guys having to get their gearboxes replaced because they used launch control too often and Nissan wouldn't cover it under warranty, because they used launch control.

Example of a dude's story here:

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25361

My dad had a 350z manual, great car but it had little annoying rattles in the cabin that the dealer couldn't identify. I remember going on the Z forums and seeing all sorts of complaints from owners having different problems, just the same way people post their issues here. Dad's had the stereo replaced because it stopped reading CDs properly, would just start skipping. After it was replaced, radio reception was bloody average.

Ended up getting rid of the car after 3 years, because in the last 6 months or so, he had to have the clutch replaced 3 times. He wasn't the only person with this problem, he spoke to a guy at a servo who pulled up in another Z who had had his car less than a year and his and also been replaced. After looking into it on the net, found it wasn't an uncommon issue.

Traded the car for a Merc SLK350 2 years ago and hasn't had the slightest issue and the dealer service is FANTASTIC.

I know these cars a bit more expensive than a Golf, but when the top of the line Nissan (GTR wasn't out at the time) has problems, you can't say that Japanese cars are going to be a problem free experience.

[ox518]

Wow, this thread seems like a VW quality control complaints.

I have rattle noise problem from the second week ownership, and after two times repair，I still can slightly hear it on the rough road. Therefore I just give up and I am going to send it to a Syd dealer when the first service comes up.

Anyway, what I am going to say is, none of the car is perfect. Especially on a $35k car which has even better tech and build quality than $50k car. I always believe that you pay for what you got.

Lemons in every brand.

[Paul_OH]

I'm am wondering though how this has become such a big issue? It seems to me (and my GT TSI has done it since new) that it is a byproduct of the correct functioning of the engine. If you think about it, you have a crankshaft spinning at anywhere upto 3000rpm and when your foot demands power - the magnetic clutch has to engage a supercharger which takes a 'LOT' of startup intertia from a standstill to engine speed in a split second!

If this is ever fixed to the satisfaction of all users I'll be very surprised

A Mazda 6 (used as an example as others have already compared them) won't do it because they've got a relatively low tech 2.5NA engine. The TDIs won't do it because they're turbo only.

At the end of the day you're buying a premium (not prestige) Euro brand w/ cutting edge technology for Jap car prices and wondering why everything isn't perfect? We had a previous model Mazda6 and looked at the new model. After driving the Golf the Mazda wasn't even in the same class - although you get a lot of car for the money with the Mazda.
The fit, finish, handling, solidity and sporting tone of the Golf was in our mind a much smarter buy than the cruisy comfort of the Mazda.

[ox518]

I'm am wondering though how this has become such a big issue? It seems to me (and my GT TSI has done it since new) that it is a byproduct of the correct functioning of the engine. If you think about it, you have a crankshaft spinning at anywhere upto 3000rpm and when your foot demands power - the magnetic clutch has to engage a supercharger which takes a 'LOT' of startup intertia from a standstill to engine speed in a split second!

If this is ever fixed to the satisfaction of all users I'll be very surprised

A Mazda 6 (used as an example as others have already compared them) won't do it because they've got a relatively low tech 2.5NA engine. The TDIs won't do it because they're turbo only.

At the end of the day you're buying a premium (not prestige) Euro brand w/ cutting edge technology for Jap car prices and wondering why everything isn't perfect? We had a previous model Mazda6 and looked at the new model. After driving the Golf the Mazda wasn't even in the same class - although you get a lot of car for the money with the Mazda.
The fit, finish, handling, solidity and sporting tone of the Golf was in our mind a much smarter buy than the cruisy comfort of the Mazda.

Agree....I think people just expect too much on this "world car of the year".....

[MorganTSI118]

I agree with the last few posts. I am only 22 and my first car was a brand new polo! I loved that car - it had no power whatsoever but it was nice to drive and I wouldn't have opted for anything else. Since then I traded it in for my Golf. I loooove my car!! Squeals and all! I also get the ticking in the window but have found that to be after my car has been sitting in the heat so it must have something to do with expanding or something.

My sisters have had Mazdas and Holdens and both now have golfs. My parents have had holdens, fords, nissans, subarus, toyotas.. not sure about anything else and now they both have volkswagens. From all the experiences they have had with different manufacturers they still prefer the quality of a volkswagen. They have said they will never touch another Holden, Ford is OK, Subaru's are too hard on fuel and well toyota is just boring! My dad has had a lot of problems with one of the golfs he has bought but still loves taking my car for a drive. The engine is fanstatic, the safety is amazing, its soo quiet.. but basically...you wont see me in a jap car. I will opt for other EUROS over buying anything Japanese or Australian lol.

Also my partner who has a MAZDA 3 will prefer to drive my car everywhere and would love to buy a JETTA for his next car.

I agree that you get lemons with any make of car but you stick to what you love and perhaps dont deal witht he same dealership (which is exactly what my dad is doing abut his one faulty golf - he is no longer going there for services either).

Oh well, each to their own!!

[cktsi]

If this is ever fixed to the satisfaction of all users I'll be very surprised

Be prepared for a surprise then. VW have a database of all customers with the issue & will contact them when the fix is ready. They are currently working on new supercharger plates that will not squeal when engaged.

[Schnapp]

My car seems to have developed this chirp @ 2740km. Its quite audible even when inside the car and all windows closed.

It happens when the supercharger engages. As when I wind my window down, and listen to the engine while driving, you hear the ~0.5-1 sec CHIIRRPP then you here the supercharger kickin straight after. So everytime I let go of the accelerator, the supercharger disengages, and then I give a little on the accelerator, the supercharger engages resulting in a quite audible chirp. I can replicated at will.

Anyone have any updates on when this will be fixed? And will dealers know about this problem. It is rather annoying as sometimes i drive with no radio etc...and to just hear the sharp chirp noise in an otherwise quiet cabin is very annoying.

[soogs]

Check this link http://www.caradvice.com.au/23897/20...-steer-review/

at the bottom of the page under comments the bloke Horst Flugel seems to know what he's talking about.

[Schnapp]

Check this link http://www.caradvice.com.au/23897/20...-steer-review/

at the bottom of the page under comments the bloke Horst Flugel seems to know what he's talking about.

Thanks very much soogs!

I see there is a date of Nov 2009 being thrown around for a newly designed waterpump. They will replace the waterpump with the newly designed one for those experiencing the problem under warranty.

Looks like I'll have to put up with the chirp till end of the year...

If anyone has any updates be sure to post here!

[petergsydney]

I'm am wondering though how this has become such a big issue? It seems to me (and my GT TSI has done it since new) that it is a byproduct of the correct functioning of the engine.

I can understand that with an engine so quiet, this noise can be irritating. However, I've actually been relieved to find that there has been no other widely reported issue with the new TSI engine. I've done 6000k with mine and am very happy with it. After reading this thread, I listened and yes, I do have this magnetic clutch squeal. But also after reading this thread I realised that the sound didn't indicate a problem.

I'll be interested to see when or if VW come up with a solution to this little quirk, but won't be upset if they don't.